Good evening. Welcome to Vancouver City Council. Today is Monday, October 5th, 2026. We had three workshops this afternoon. We discussed our legislative priorities. We worked on some budget and title 19 with the municipal code for parking. Please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Miss Dolor. Please call the roll. >> Okay. Councilmember Harless, present. Perez. Present. Fox here, Paulson here. I'm going to note that Council member and Council member Hansen are both online for the meeting. Thank you. And Mayor McEnerny Ogle. >> Present, all present and accounted for. Thank you. We have two proclamations this evening. Let's start off with Dia de Muertos, day of the dead, and Mariana Cruz. Ana Cruz, both just one. Okay, here we go. Whereas the City of Vancouver welcomes and celebrates the cultural traditions of its diverse communities, recognizing that Latino culture, history, and traditions add richness and color to the fabric of our city, and day of the dead is a cherished tradition rooted in indigenous, African, and European influences that bring families and generations together to honor ancestors, share stories, and strengthen connections to their cultural heritage, and the City of Vancouver recognizes the Latino community as an important and valued part of our city, honoring their contributions, creativity, traditions, and the resilience of Latino families who helped make Vancouver a stronger, more connected and vibrant community. And where on October 17th, 2026, the City of Vancouver will join with the community in sponsoring and actively participating in Dia de Muertos. Day of the dead Luminaria celebration at Esther Short Park from 2 to 8 p.m. inviting residents of all backgrounds to come together in remembrance, celebration and appreciation of this meaningful cultural tradition. Now therefore, I Anne McEnerny Ogle, Mayor of Vancouver, Washington, do hereby proclaim November 1st through the second as day of the dead in the city of Vancouver and encourage the community to join, participate and learn more about this observance and the rich cultural history it represents. >> There you go. >> Good evening, Council councilors and Madam Mayor. City Manager and all. Thank you. I believe a beautiful city is the one that embraces culture, art and traditions. That is key to a healthy community. I'm so thankful that you, Madam Mayor, will be attending and accepted our invitation to be part of the festivities of Luminarias 2027 day of the dead Dia de Los Muertos. At our beautiful Esther Short Park. We are looking forward to beautiful weather and thank you again so very much for appreciating this beautiful tradition that is part of the Latino community. Have a wonderful evening. >> Thank you so very much. And this is National Disability Employment Awareness Month. Gabriela and Bob, please. Whereas the City of Vancouver is actively involved in the implementation of the Americans with Disabilities Act, celebrating the 36th anniversary of this historic legislation and the most comprehensive civil rights legislation in the world for people with disabilities. And whereas, people with disabilities are an irreplaceable resource and we cannot morally or financially afford to lose the contributions that this untapped workforce brings, not only in the workplace but community life. Whereas, the City of Vancouver, in partnership with Clark County and other public agencies, and with the cooperative assistance of numerous civic and nonprofit groups, can look forward to a continued expansion of employment opportunities for the greater acceptance of people with disabilities in the competitive labor market, and the theme for 2026 is Celebrating Value and Talent, and it recognizes the contributions that American workers with disabilities add to our workplaces and the economy, and highlights their achievements, both past and present, and confirms our commitment to ensuring that workers with disabilities have access to good jobs every month of every year now. Therefore, I Anne McEnerny Ogle, Mayor of Vancouver, Washington, do hereby proclaim the month of October as National Disability Employment Awareness Month in the City of Vancouver and encourage the community to join in reaffirming our determination to fulfill both the letter and the spirit of the Americans with Disabilities Act. >> I would like to thank our Mayor and City Council members for your proclamation and support of Disability Employment Awareness Month. My name is Bob Friedland and I'm a volunteer member and chair of the Clark County Developmental Disabilities Advisory Board. I would describe myself as an older, retired white man with curly gray hair, and I wear glasses. Joining me at the microphone is Gabriela Ewing, a distinguished advocate and parent serving on our advisory board. We are also joined in the room by Angela Gomez, a professional program coordinator within the Clark County Developmental Disabilities Program, and lead staff member to our advisory board, the Developmental Disabilities Advisory Board is charged with advising our Clark County councilors on issues and services related to developmental disabilities throughout Clark County. >> October is Disability. >> Employment Awareness Month nationwide. Locally, our advisory board will be hosting Clark College County 26th year anniversary or Disability Employment Awareness celebration. Our awards event reflects the important role people with disabilities play in the workforce. Diversity. We invite you to join us in honoring local employers, employees, and employment agencies, and employment professionals for their commitment to employment for all. Our very festive in-person event will be held this Wednesday, October 7th from 4 to 6 p.m. at Clark College Geisen Hall, located at 1933 Fort Vancouver Way in Vancouver, Washington. The event will also be live streamed and recorded on CVTV. For those who prefer to watch remotely, this free public event is is for all to attend. For additional information, please call (564) 397-2130. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. That concludes our communication or our proclamation. Before we go into communication, counselors, Counselor Stober and Hanson have asked to be excused due to communication issues and such. >> Mayor, before we do that, I just got teams back up. I believe both are still on. Let me give them the permission to unmute. Council member Stober and Hanson, are you on? >> I am present this council member Hanson. >> President Stober. >> Okay, so we don't need to excuse them. Thank you so very much. We're into communications from the community. Carmen Dayley Lehan. Bruce Barnes, please. Carmen. Go ahead. Come on up. >> Gentlemen. Thank you man. Right on. Okay. Hey, so my name is Molodih Lehan, also known as Carmen de Lehan. And we have a number of things that I don't want to get in trouble for talking about, because I'm talking about what you guys talked about earlier, about 80,000 people coming to Vancouver, and that you guys have to make adjustments for the new 80,000 people that are coming to Vancouver. But nobody talked about new schools. Nobody talked about more cops, more firemen, more hospitals. And that's key because you got a half a million people with two hospitals, and you want to add another almost 100,000. Nobody's talking about a hospital here. I don't know, maybe you guys encourage sick people dying, I don't know. So anyways, what's the next thing? Okay, we got 22. Okay. Oh, you want to talk about Dia de Los Muertos? I'm not sure you really want to because I have talked to the dead and it's not fun. So for them to celebrate that, hey, you all go for it. But when you really talk to a dead person, you might have a different opinion about celebrating Dia de Los Muertos because you should be celebrating every day you're alive because the real life, the real joy, is life. And now we have disabilities. Okay, I have a disability. Why don't I get a job? Because the more I work, the more they take from me. So why would I get a job? How many people do I know with disabilities working under the table? Because they know that if they. Report it, they're going to lose dollar for dollar. So congratulations on people with Disability Employment Month because a lot of them won't tell you. We have another thing. Let me see. Communications. Is there anything else open here. Well we did talk about the the what is it called the plan of. Oh yeah. The youth. You guys want a youth advisory board and the guys listening that said that they want a humanitarian board. And I kind of agree with that, considering that this youth is the lowest IQ youth on record, that we have systematically brought in more computers and gotten our population stupider. So if you want to keep taking advice from stupid people, you go for it. But I would listen to the other dude who said, we need a humanitarian board because like I said, you can listen to the youth all you want, but take it with a grain of salt. They're not as smart as we were at that age. They're being mummified with all of this computer crap that's being put in their heads and at a young age, being made to question whether they should pee standing up or sitting down, which I think is why that the schools are being nobody wants to go to public school anymore because they're not teaching reading math and math and arithmetic because they they want to poison the mind of the youth. And it's really sad to see that instead of getting smarter by the generation, we have the stupidest generation on record and you want to listen to them. Why don't you advise them to turn off their computers and their cell phones and then next generation, maybe. >> We thank you for your testimony. Bruce Barnes, I want to. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Bruce Barnes. For the record, can we talk about number seven here at this point, or do we have to wait till the end of the meeting? >> You have to wait until public hearing on that. >> So the other things I want to talk about is the last two days, I've witnessed two fires at homeless encampments. The Clark County sheriff also found a huge marijuana grow out on highway 99. I don't know if you guys saw that or not. And with all the cameras around town here, I'm just wondering why we don't have any down here to monitor the criminal behavior that's going on down here at the share house every night. We we got to we got to do something better. I just traveled through Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, South Dakota. They don't have any of these problems. Cities are clean. No homeless tents, no garbage. You know, I haven't been here for a while, but I definitely think that we can we can improve on that. The Main Street promise I see is pretty much complete. I appreciate you guys actually putting the white paint on the speed bumps so people don't get out of their vehicles and trip on those, because I see numerous people hit the deck because they couldn't actually see that that incline on the, the speed bump. That's very sharp. But I also have some, some concerns about what's going on on Saint John's Boulevard. Now, if you're to turn right off of Saint John's now, there's no light for the Bicyclers. So they're just going as the light is green. But a lot of people don't look back to turn. I think there's going to be some accidents. And I think that there should be a traffic signal there for the the cyclist or to let the public know, like over in Portland, they've got a flashing red sign when the bicyclists are coming, right. So you cannot turn off that main thoroughfare until they go through. And I think that'd be a good idea for the Bicyclers. Not that there's any that I really ever see going up Saint John's, but I guess that's all I got for that part. And I'm going to talk on number seven later. Thank you so much. >> All right. That concludes our communication. I have some cards for item number seven, which is the public hearing. So do we have Kimberly Elbon online? No. All right. Let's go to the consent agenda. Then we're pulling item number two. Councilors. Are there any other items of the six that you would like to pull on consent? Let me read a couple of them into the record. Item number four A resolution fixing October 26th, 2026, is the date for a public hearing on our proposal to vacate public right of way associated with Southeast First Street, located on the northeast corner of northeast 184th Avenue in Southeast First Street. Located within the southeast quarter of section 30, Township two North range three, East Willamette, Meridian City of Vancouver, Clark County, Washington. Item number five is an ordinance relating to the Comprehensive Plan and Zoning for the City of Vancouver and the Vancouver Municipal Code title 20 in matters related to statutory requirements to facilitate housing near transit. Amending VMC 20.4, 50.030 and 20.5 30.040. Providing for severability and establishing an effective date. I'll entertain a motion to approve items one and three, four, five and six. >> Move to approve. Paulson, >> Paulson seconded by Perez Perez. Those in favor say aye. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number two, Councilor Fox. >> Good evening. So item two is a project for improving Upper Main Street. And I had asked staff some some follow up questions for things that weren't included in. Well, that aren't typically included with these consent items, but I asked to see the striping plan for the proposal and also ask some safety questions. And so. Oh, okay. I should look up for my notes. So starting with my first question is along the lines of better understanding what pedestrian plans we have during construction for ensuring that there is an uninterrupted flow for pedestrians along the route. And I would say my hope is that you will tell me that they will still be able to access both sides of the street during the entire construction, because that that section of Main Street is very well utilized by pedestrians. And I couldn't imagine if you shut off one side of Main Street that folks would go to the other side. I think they would walk in the street. >> Yeah. So Ryan Lopossa, a transportation manager for the city. Excellent questions. So as with any of our construction projects, one of the things that contractor is required to do is they're required to provide us with any kind of plan that includes closing or rerouting the sidewalks, pedestrian pathways and so forth. With this particular project, most of the work is happening on the roadway itself. So we're resurfacing the roadway and then we're coming back and we're putting a different striping pattern on the roadway. We're putting the new two way mobility lane in the roadway, but we're really not doing anything behind the curb per se. So I'm not anticipating the need for any closure of the sidewalks. Now, that's not to say that the contractor might not come in and say, well, we're going to be working right next to this area. We'd like to close this off just to make it a safer area. If they do that again, they're required to submit plans to us ahead of time. Those plans are always routed to me for my review. And we'll look and see, okay, where what's being closed? How are the pedestrians being rerouted? How long is that going to occur? And do we have a reasonable pathway that these folks can take? But again, given the fact that they're not actually going to be doing any, any work on the sidewalks or anything behind the curb, that should be fairly minimal for this one. >> What is the timing for the construction of the project? >> So we are, you know, basically in the, in the bid award phase. So here in probably another couple or three weeks, we'll get contracts signed by the contractor, we'll hold a pre-construction meeting. The, the sizable portion of the work obviously involves the pavement work. That work is not going to happen until we get back into paving season this next spring. There is maybe a little bit of work that they can do. I do believe there's some signal work that they need to do and some, you know, some non pavement related work, but the lion's share of this work is going to be happening this next spring. And and then I don't know the exact number of working days, but I would say this project should be completed by next fall. >> And my final question and followed by a statement is, I didn't notice any changes to crossings on this project. So it looks as if the crossings, pedestrian crossings are going to remain in the same places. >> Yeah. So we have we have the existing crossing at 39th Street with that signal, as well as at 45th Street. We also have the existing crossing, although it's been out of commission for a little over a year, about halfway between 45th and 39th, by way of a separate activity, that crossing is going to be brought back into brought back online here within the next few weeks as well. We've just been waiting on materials to be delivered so we could restore that that mast arm and pole that was knocked down last year by an automobile. So we'll get that crossing restored. But there's yeah, there's no other crossing improvements or changes being made as a part of this project. >> And I was I was going to raise that concern on that mid-block crossing for those that are as old as me here in the city of Vancouver, when I was in high school, there wasn't a crossing there, and a lot of high school students would park across the street at the church because we didn't have enough parking at Kiggins Bowl, and student crossed and was killed there, you know, didn't they didn't walk down to the crosswalk. Right. And so I think it was about a year or two later, that crossing was put in place specifically to assist with folks going to Kiggins Wolf for games. And so not having that operational when it comes to football season again is really concerning to me. So I appreciate to know that it's going to be back online. >> Yeah, we're it's been sorely missed and I can't wait for it to, to get back online so we can restore the safety at that at that intersection. >> Thank you. I don't have any more questions on this project. >> Thank you. Councilor Stober, did you have a point to make? >> Yes. Thank you mayor. Hey, Brian. Help me. I, I have been under the understanding for a number of years that the Upper Main Street project started much further south than this. Is this just one portion, or is this all of the Upper Main Street project that we've been talking about for a while? >> So we did a, we did a corridor study of upper main that extends all the way down to Fourth Plain. And that study essentially analyzed what needed to be done to the corridor as we do projects along the corridor. So it looked at the need for additional crossings. It looked at what type of mobility improvements we could make along the corridor. So it really helped us to uncover the types of improvements that we could make to the corridor. As we encountered projects along the corridor. So this is the first project per se that we're doing in the wake of that of that corridor plan. And so this project goes essentially from 39th Street up to 45th, although it does extend a little bit further south than 39th, we're actually going down to 37th with some of the striping work. But then there will be another element of improvements on the corridor. When we come in to resurface the segment all the way down to fourth Plain. And then we'll we'll go back to the corridor plan. We'll look at the list of recommendations for that segment of the corridor and apply those to that particular project when we when we get to that project. >> Okay. Thank you very much. I thought there was more involved, but thank you. Have a great day. >> You two. >> Councilors, any other comments on item two? >> Mayor, move to approve. >> Thank you. Stober seconded by Fox. Fox. All those in favor, say aye. >> Aye aye. >> Opposed. Motion passes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you Ryan. That brings us into the public hearing item number seven. It's a resolution considering initiative. Measure number IL 26-001 concerning parental rights relating to their children in public school. This measure would repeal amendments to a statute listing certain rights of parents and guardians of public school children, and reenact the law as it was originally enacted by initiative to the legislature 2081, an initiative measure number IL 26-638. Concerning participation in athletics at K-12 schools. This measure would prohibit students. It identifies. It defines as biologically male from competing in certain school athletic activities and intended for female students only. It would require verification of biological sex by students, health care providers. Done. Okay. Staff summary, please. >> All right. Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council Aaron Lande, assistant city manager, joined by Catherine Kelly, policy and programs manager. I appreciate, mayor, you reading that subject. So I didn't have to read that whole thing. But that's what the city attorney says we have to say for this one. So just a reminder, on September 14th, the Vancouver Council discussed these two initiatives that will appear on the November 3rd, 2026 general election ballot. And at the end of that discussion, the City Council directed staff to return with a resolution expressing the City Council's opposition to the passage of those two initiatives. So what you have in front of you this evening is the resolution doing as council directed. I'm happy to answer any questions, but I think honestly, the the subject that was read pretty much lays out what these two initiatives would do. And. Yeah, okay, I'll leave it there. >> Let's go ahead then and open the public hearing. Kimberly Elbon no. Carmen de Leon. >> Yeah, this is Carmen de Lehan. Molodih Lehan. And it's my understanding that, you know, some little confused boys want to crash the girls party. And it's not cool, because in case you haven't noticed, in gymnastics, the girls have four elements designed specifically for their body type. >> Miss de Lehan, you're speaking to the council, not to staff. >> Well, I want to talk to people who might listen, but. Okay, if you want me to look this way, I'll look at you. Okay, so the boys have eight elements with upper body strength because they naturally have pectorals, not bosoms because their physical bodies are different than women, so they do not belong in women's sports, no matter how much they want to pretend. For example, they cannot get tattoos, they cannot smoke cigarettes, they cannot drink beer, they cannot drive because a rental agency waits till the age of 25, because the brain hasn't fully developed yet. So you can't do certain things because your brain doesn't know the reality of the situation. Your brain isn't completed until age 25. So these little confused 1020, whatever age they are that want to do the the, the easy sports. Because none of these boys want to be in gymnastics. I don't see them doing the splits. I see them running, which most toddlers can do. So they just want to boost their own fragile egos because they're failing as men. So they want to crash the girls party. And it's not right to take away their scholarships and their trophies and their medals that they work so hard for. Just because some boy decides that he's not good enough to win on that side. So he wants to join this side. And I'm not even going to talk about the embarrassment of having to get undressed in front of a boy when I'm a teenage girl. No wonder I left school. There is no way I'm going to take a shower with a bunch of girls, much less a boy who thinks he's a girl. So can you please get the boys out of the girls locker rooms? And by the way, thousands of people have taken their kids out of public schools in favor of private schools because of this kind of thing, because girls are being pretty much sexually abused and molested. Because when you have to deal with a naked boy, that is a form of of mental molestation. And these boys, like I said, they do not belong in a girls locker room, period. End of story. They were born with 50% more muscles than girls. We were not born physically to lift weights. We were born two feet or breastfeed our daughters and sons because we have breasts. That's what a woman is. If that's offensive, then you're offended. Shame on you because that's just the reality of the situation. So I'm just saying, they, I, I do believe in making the drinking age 25 because the brain hasn't developed yet. And you should not give kids to drugs because that's ruining them permanently for life and the damage you make. You know, the first thing a child molester does is say, don't tell your parents. >> Thank you for your testimony. Bruce Barnes, please. >> For the record, Bruce Barnes. A few things that concern me about this. One of them just came up where Dennis Rodman wanted to join the WNBA and women freaked out. Right. Which they should. Okay. I've also been involved in motocross and supercross my entire life, and so is my son, the fastest woman motocross rider is 30s a lap slower than the number 40 guy on the gate. All you had to do is watch the Olympics. At the last Olympics in boxing, where the biological man just absolutely annihilated the other women boxers, it was disgusting to watch, honestly. He hurt those women badly. Some of them wouldn't even compete with him after that. Our prison system and other system, which allows biological men that are transgenders to be in with the female population and lots of pregnancies have happened. But, you know, title nine was put in place 50 years ago for equality. So women did have a place to compete where they felt safe, where they felt that there would be no injuries, where they felt like there was no physical advantage. There are so many things wrong with this, honestly. And I mean, all we'd have to do is just make a separate sport, you know? That's the simple solution to me. I don't care what people are. I don't care who they love. I don't care who they what they, they want to act like or, or impersonate. It doesn't matter to me. But what matters to me is that women strive to be the best that they can be, and to have their medals taken from them, their scholarships taken from them, lots of other things. When, if I was a woman in this day and age, I'd be just absolutely furious at what is going on. I mean, I'd be infuriated. So we got to do something different, you know, and I don't know what it's going to be. You know what I mean? I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think that they belong in in a man belongs in a woman's sport, period. Not only do I think that I don't think they belong in a locker room with them either, especially as a, a K 12 or below student. I just think it's ridiculous. You know, as a parent, I would I would never allow my kid to go to a school that allowed that. So anyways. I don't know what else to add. I just, I don't even know what kind of times we're living in here, man. I just, I think we need more mental illness. Counseling is what we need. Thank you for your time. >> And we have Heidi Green. >> Good evening. Good evening, mayor and staff. Thank you for having me. I really want to thank you for taking the time to consider this resolution opposing Washington state initiatives 001 and 638. I'm here tonight to ask you to pass the resolution and to thank you for considering it. These initiatives may be statewide measures, but their consequences would be felt right here in our schools, our classrooms, athletic fields and our homes. Our children deserve to learn in environments where they feel safe, respected and supported. They deserve privacy, dignity and the opportunity to participate fully in school life without being singled out or excluded. By passing this resolution, you have the opportunity to send a clear message than. Cooper stands with children and families. Now, I know that taking a position on a controversial issue requires courage, but local leadership means listening to the community and speaking up. When our values and the well-being of young children are at stake. So tonight, I urge you to take that step. Please pass this resolution before you and and once you do, let it be more than a statement. Let it be a signal to other cities and communities across Washington state that local leaders can and should stand up for safety, dignity, and the futures of young people. Let's show that that we can protect our children. We can support our families and build communities that every young person in them knows that they belong. So thank you for your leadership, your courage, and your consideration. Please pass the resolution and let Vancouver lead the way. Thank you. >> Thank you. Terry, please. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council and staff. My name is Tara Eby and I use she her pronouns. And I am here tonight as the president of Queer Community Network. We're a local nonprofit serving the queer and trans community and part of the statewide coalition of organizations that support No Hate in Washington state, which is the official opposition campaign for these initiatives. My colleague Brant Baker, who many of you met a couple weeks ago when they were here, was unable to join us tonight and asked me to extend their thanks as well. First, I want to thank Mr. Lande and Miss Kelly for the care that you put into researching these initiatives and engaging with the community, and for the staff who worked thoughtfully to draft this resolution. That's before you here tonight, and to Mayor and Council for your attention to this important issue and for considering the resolution. One of the things that I really appreciate the most about the text of the resolution is that it doesn't simply state a position. It grounds the position that Vancouver already has established the values of recognizing equity and community safety as universal policy priorities, and equity and inclusion as one of our five core values. Maybe most importantly, it also reflects that the city believes that all children deserve to be respected. This issue is also really personal for me, as the parent of a young girl who loves playing sports, I want her to have every opportunity to compete and grow and have fun with the kids her age. But I also want her and every child to be treated with dignity and respect in that process. I appreciate that this resolution recognizes that supporting girls and girls sports does not require sacrificing their privacy, safety or dignity dignity for the children. The concerns identified in this resolution safety and privacy of young people, their ability to seek support from trusted adults, equal access to activities, and the potential for two LGBTQ youth and youth, from other marginalized identities to experience stigma, harassment and involuntary disclosure. Their fundamental questions of equity, inclusion, safety, and dignity. So tonight, I am simply here to say thank you on behalf of the Queer Community Network, on behalf of the No Hate in Washington State campaign. On behalf of my daughter, thank you for listening to the community. Thank you for the work that went into bringing this resolution forward. And thank you in advance for passing this resolution and continuing to demonstrate that through our actions. That equity, inclusion, community safety, and respect for all children aren't simply words in Vancouver strategic plan, their commitments with real meaning. >> Thank you. Eunice Inger Minson. >> Good evening, esteemed mayor and members of the council. My name is Eunice Manson and my pronouns are she her. I am your neighbor in battleground. I'm a board member with PFLAG Vancouver and co-founder of Call to Love. I'm here to express my enthusiastic support for the resolution you have in the works, expressing the City Council's opposition to Washington state initiatives 001 and 638 on the November ballot and the mother of a transgender man before his coming out. All I thought and knew about the LGBTQ plus community was what my mother taught me 60 years ago that God and the Bible were against these godless people. After my child came out, I had a counterexample and the motivation to reexamine my long held belief. This caused me to thoroughly turn from fearing queer folks and voting against equal rights for the LGBTQ folks. I now spend my time serving LGBTQ plus youth and families, supporting GSA clubs, and coming alongside folks at the intersection of faith, LGBTQ, apologizing to the LGBTQ folks who have been harmed by the faith community, and helping faith communities become fully affirming and safe places for LGBTQ people wanting to. Wanting a place at the table. Organizations that I worked most closely with, namely PFLAG Vancouver and Call to Love, have spent the entire summer alerting folks of these two dangerous, oppressive, and other initiatives at pride and other community events in collaboration with No Hate and Wall Street, and canvasing with them. To a lot of folks living in rural communities such as my community of battleground, still think like I used to, and don't even realize that the strong armed approach of initiative 001 to protect parents will take away protection from the most vulnerable youth, and that the way the initiative seeks 38 claims to protect girls will actually hurt all girls wanting to play sports. Having the City of Vancouver stand up and oppose these initiatives will make the youth that the initiatives are targeting feel seen, supported and protected and boost the credibility of our efforts to inform voters. Please use your loud voice in our community and back up our quiet voices. Thank you. >> Thank you. That concludes our public hearing. Brings it back to the council Council. Questions or comments of staff. ET cetera. I'll entertain a motion. >> Move to approve Paulson. >> Seconded by Fox. All those in favor, say aye. >> Aye aye. >> Opposed. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you very much. That concludes our business. That brings us into communication from the council. Councilor Harless pass. Councilor Perez. >> Yes. I just wanted to share a couple of things. Saturday, I believe it was Saturday. I attended the Southwest Washington Manufactured Home Owners Educational Forum, along with County Councilor Glen Yung and others. And that's where I learned a bit more about what we call junk fees and a way to continue to add fees for things that you wouldn't think about until now, and what that has resulted in is many homeowners who live in mobile home parks or manufactured homes really worried, continue to worry about their future and one bill away. And so I want to emphasize how important it is for us as we work on our legislative agenda item, to really stand firm on the junk fees for our homeowners there. So I just wanted to share that that is something to continue to monitor. Secondly, our school districts are responding to not just us here, but I think across the country, a low student enrollment. And a lot of that is the, you know, for several reasons, just our population is declining. We are not having babies. We're choosing not to have babies. And thus it's forcing the school districts to really think about their facilities. And locally here, I think that provides us here at the city an opportunity to think proactively and regionally. As a school. Districts are seeking input. We are part of that community. And I think if facilities or properties become underutilized, that they could support perhaps that workforce or regional training center that we are looking for a spot for, or it could be a childcare early, early learning center spot for dessert, child care, desert area, or a much needed housing that we need for the area. So I'd like to encourage us to have those early conversations with the school districts, as well as perhaps the county or other regional partners in these efforts. And rather than wait until the decisions are made, we could be at the table exploring how these changes could create that long term community benefit that we're working hard to do. So I just wanted to encourage that. And if I don't know if City Manager, you've already thought about that, or if there's a process for us to submit those ideas or comments to the school districts. And then lastly, I just want to the idea that was brought forward by the gentleman, Mr. Bruce Barnes, who spoke about the Crossing Saint John's Crossing 500 on your bike. And I like the idea of a flashing lights, but not just for bicyclists, but for pedestrians. And I don't know if we have that elsewhere. And if we do, then I appreciate Mr. Bruce Barnes coming forward and showing and highlighting an area that could benefit from something like that for public safety. So again, not sure if that's been considered or if that's something that we can take a look at, not just that spot, but other spots that align heavy use. And in particular this area along fourth plain and 500. I know that there are a lot of folks who commute by foot, or because they're using the great improvement on the road that we did for public safety. So I just wanted to say that I support that idea. That concludes my comments. >> Thank you, Councilor Fox, Councilor Paulson, councilor Stober. >> Pass tonight. >> Thank you, Councilor Hansen. >> I'll pass. >> Thank you. We had a wonderful old Apple tree festival this weekend. Over a thousand people came down to press cider, get apple tree cuttings, learn about the apple tree and all the other vendors and everything else that were there. So congratulations to staff. That is an ever growing festival. Thank you for excusing me. Last week when I was in Washington DC, talking to our senators about the needs of Vancouver. And then a big welcome to Megan Steel, who comes to us from Washington, DC as our administrative assistant right there in second floor City Hall. Big time. All right, city manager, anything? >> Just a note that my follow ups from tonight are administrative in nature, related to some more background information and clarification around the budget and some follow up there. And then just a reminder that this Wednesday is the dedication and celebration of the Main Street Promise Project. >> Yep, we're excited about that, Miss Cook. Anything? >> Nothing from LA mayor. Thank you. >> Thank you. So it is 720 that finishes our regular meeting brings us into the community forum. Do we have anyone online? Then we go to Carmen de Lehan.