Hello, everybody, and welcome
to the October 13th, 2026
C-TRAN Board of Directors
meeting. We'll go ahead and
start off with the Pledge of
Allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the
flag of the United States of
America and to the Republic for
which it stands one nation
under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for.
>> All. Right, Cyndie, how
about the roll call?
>> Brian Davis. Present Wil
Fuentes here. Bart Hanson
present. Kim Harless present.
Tim Hein present. Sue Marchel
here. Anne McEnerny Ogle
present. Eric Paulson Glen Yung
here. Joshua waits. Here.
>> All right, thank you. Cyndie.
And now it's time for the
approval of the agenda. Are
there any additions or changes
to the agenda? Not seeing. So
I'll entertain a motion.
>> I move to approve the agenda.
>> Second.
>> We have a motion and a
second. All those in favor say
aye. I opposed and moving
forward. Board recognition time
C-TRAN Board of Directors and
C-TRAN staff to recognize
outstanding acts of kindness
and service to our community.
From Brian Brady and Josh stark.
>> Good evening.
>> There you go, net.
>> Good evening everyone. The
purpose of this presentation is
to acknowledge extraordinary
citizens who ride our system.
On July 14th, one of our
operators suffered a sudden
medical emergency while in
service and lost consciousness
behind the wheel. In moments
like this, everything depends
on what happens in the first
few seconds. Tonight, I want to
recognize the people who acted
in those seconds, and whose
actions are the reasons why
this incident ended as well as
it did. These two people are.
Brianne Brady I apologize if
I'm pronouncing your name wrong.
And Josh stark, Ryan Brady
contacted emergency services
while Josh stark communicated
with dispatch with the dispatch
center, who walked him through
securing the bus. Neither of
them had any obligation to step
in. They were riders on their
way somewhere, like thousands
of others on our system that
day, it would have been easy to
freeze or to assume someone
else would act instead, in a
frightening situation and under
real pressure, they chose to
help a stranger and the people
around them. I also want to
acknowledge the dispatch team.
They remain calm and gave clear
direction to someone with no
transit training and
coordinated the response from
the moment the call came in.
This is the professionalism we
ask of our dispatch team every
day, and on July 14th it made a
real difference. Safety on
C-TRAN. Safety on C-TRAN is not
something we deliver alone. It
is shared with the people who
ride with us. Brianne and Josh
showed what it means to look
out for one another, and we are
proud they are part of our
community. On behalf of C-TRAN,
I would like to formally thank
them and present each of them
with the C-TRAN Award of
gratitude. Please join me in
recognizing them.
>> If you guys wouldn't mind,
would you mind having a seat
over here? And we can ask you a
few questions.
>> Did you scare them away? We
tried. Well, we tried, we tried.
>> Thank you very much for your
efforts. And it goes such a
long way to see what you folks
have done. And you stepped up
in the moment when somebody
really needed you. Thank you.
Next up is public testimony or
communication. Testimony is
limited to three minutes. We
ask that comments shall be
respectful and courteous to all.
As a reminder, you can email
comments to the clerk of the
board and these will be
accepted as part of the public
record. I will now open the
meeting for public testimony
and I will take the in first
person first. So. Carmen de
Lehan.
>> My name is Carmen de Lehan.
I also go by Melory. And so
there's quite a few things on
today's agenda. So how about we
talk about this one? C-TRAN
existing control has an aging
and has identified security,
reliability, blah blah, blah.
So I'm just wondering, are you
guys going to guarantee that
you don't implement AI? Because
as has been even I think the
Senate has declared AI a
potential threat to your
systems. And in case you don't
know about the food in overseas,
because it was done online,
they hacked into it and they
lost millions of dollars in
food. So I'm saying no AI and
be careful with whatever that a
ridiculous amount of money is.
And in this one, you want to
acquire a new property for the
what is it, Shklov corner. Well,
that's just great. But you know,
in Seattle, they handle 70,000
people a game and three hours
to park them in and park them
out. How come they got it all
figured out and you guys can't
handle, what, 40,000 or 70,000
on that corner a day? You know
what we do in Seattle? What
they did in Seattle was they
made it so that the the
freeways go one on top of the
other. So you're not buying
more land. You're building on
top of each other. Have you
ever been downtown Seattle
where you're driving and you're
going under? It's so cool. It's
like a video game. I love
driving in Seattle, but what
I'm saying here also is that
Clark County is 50. What is it,
50 500,000 people, half a
million. And City of Vancouver
is only 200,000. So why do they
have so much, say, when they're
the minority of Clark County
anyways? And I guess how many
minutes? Okay, so I have this.
So they want to do a light rail,
of course. And I've always said
that that's a bad idea. And we
have another story here of a
guy dying. And like I've told
you before, oh yeah, the
pictures I put out pictures.
Did you guys get the pictures?
Because hopefully you're
passing around the picture.
Right on. That's the picture.
I've ridden on those busses.
I've ridden on busses hanging
on to the door, and that's why
I hope everybody got a view of
those pictures, because that's
where you would want to invest
maybe 100, 500 million, but not
billions when you've got, what
is it, route 60 with only 900
ridership a day. I think this
picture maybe may give you a
clue of what real ridership is,
which is a full bus. People
hurting to get in there instead
of begging people to ride those
empty busses that only paying
4% of the 96% is coming out of
everybody's money, everybody's
money, and nobody's using it.
So, you know, I'm glad you guys
had your nice dinner over there,
but remember, some people
actually pay for things and
they can't afford to have this
money wasted by the billions on
light rail that nobody has
voted for and is actually a
insulting to the historic
society that wants to save the
bridge.
>> Next up we have Margaret
Trulet.
>> Good morning, C-TRAN Boerke.
I wanted to bring to your
attention the incident that
happened on the Max this year.
An elderly Oregon man, he was
71 years old and he acted in
self defense when he was
confronted by a younger man who
exposed himself and made
repeated threats to rape the
elderly, elderly man's blind
partner. And he explained to
the judge he was afraid because
his partner was under five feet
tall and less than 100 pounds
and legally blind. So this
these are the reasons. This is
the reality of why many women
would never, ever ride the max.
And it's just a big concern. In
the end, the guy that shot
himself in self defense is
facing two years in prison. And
I don't know what's happening
to the the guy that threatened
him. Now, regarding the C-TRAN
board composition, I feel the
abrupt change to the C-TRAN
board giving four seats to the
city of Vancouver, only three
to the county and two just two
for the smaller cities is
completely unfair. One big
reason is most people in the
county do not have a vote on
the Vancouver City Council.
Everybody in the county has a
vote on the Clark County
Council. So why is it that
we're underrepresented again on
the C-TRAN board? And Vancouver,
as usual, is overrepresented?
Not only that, to add insult to
injury, the Clark County
Council chose to put two of
their three people who live in
Vancouver on the board. Okay,
so they have four official
seats plus the two that
Vancouver unnecessarily handed
over to them as well. And they
have a majority on the board to
tax us to put light rail in
without giving us a vote. It is
completely unfair, should never
have happened. And it was just
all of a sudden you're out of
compliance, declared the
Washington Department of
Transportation, which, by the
way, also said light rails were
required on the bridge. But
it's actually not. There is no
federal requirement to have
light rail on the bridge. You
can get federal funds for bus
rapid transit. That's the truth.
But they eliminated bus rapid
transit, didn't it was in the
initial consideration, but then
they eliminated it, eliminated.
So we never even knew how many
hundreds of millions BRT would
cost compared to the 3.5
billion that is proposed for
light rail. It it was
completely unjust and unfair to
all of us. And lastly, I want
to note that they. In April,
somebody was here from Wasch
dot saying that light rail
would. There would be no tolls
on 205. But they're doing a
study right now. They're
planning to study tolls on both
I-5 and 205, something you
never mentioned here.
>> Next up Douglas tweet.
>> Okay. Hello board. Thank you.
Douglas tweet now as C-TRAN is
considering plans for 2045,
it's wise to look across the
Columbia River at how Portland
and Metro have handled transit
transportation for the last 40
years and learned what not to
do. It's very worthwhile to
read a recent analysis by
Randall O'Toole of the Cascade
Policy Institute. It's called
the Portland Transportation
Disaster, the high cost of anti
auto planning in Portland. I've
attached a PDF. You should have
a copy of that as well as the
link below is a summary of some
of the main points. Portland's
transportation system is
experiencing a profound and
measurable decline. For the
past four decades, congestion
has surged, transit ridership
has collapsed from about 10% in
1980 to 5% in 2024. Traffic
fatalities have risen sharply,
up 150% from 2010, even as
Portland and Metro have spent
hundreds of millions of dollars,
maybe billions, on
transportation planning these
days, the data shows these
outcomes are not accidental but
are predictable results of
policies explicitly designed
against automobiles. Even
though they carry 95% of
passenger miles. Rather than
plan for the mode that
overwhelmingly serves residents
needs, they're focused on 5% of
passenger miles, transit,
walking, and cycling this
exclusively. The region hasn't
built a new freeway since 83,
and has instead pursued
strategies to reduce roadway
capacity, slow traffic, and
intentionally increase
congestion. These policies have
failed to reduce driving,
failed to improve transit
performance, and failed to
deliver environmental or safety
benefits. The evidence shows
that use of automobiles remains
essential to economic
opportunity, equity and
household well being. There was
a study done by the University
of Minnesota on Portland Urban
Area Job Accessibility and
found that the average resident
can access 60 times as many
jobs in a 20 minute auto trip,
rather than a 20 minute transit
trip. This helps low income
residents get jobs. Meanwhile,
cars have improved in in
cleanliness but and safety. But
traffic fatalities have nearly
tripled in the city since 2015.
Just hitting through this. This
crisis isn't inevitable, and
Clark County doesn't have to
repeat it. A data driven
strategy, one that improves
vehicles and roadways rather
than restricting them, is a
much better route to go. And he
gives some conclusions, which I
don't have time to go into. But
rather than blindly following
Portland's failed example, you
have an opportunity to build a
system in Clark County that
actually works. Central to that
is stop planning new rail
transit lines or dedicated bus
ways, instead, redesign the bus
system to actually serve people.
And they. He has very specific
recommendations. Some of these.
I agree with some of these I
don't, but I think they're well
worth considering. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Next up, Bruce
Barnes.
>> Good evening board. And my
name is Bruce Barnes. For the
record, first and foremost, I
want to address something that
has been brought to my
attention from an article in
Clark County today. Councilor
Wil Fuentes is under
investigation for ethics
violations, and I don't think
you should have any voting
power on this board, period,
until that's resolved. Similar
to Kim Harless in her situation,
she actually went through the
whole process, took her lumps
like a man. And I think that
that's the way this should be
as well, because I don't think
that anybody that is that is
funding themselves with county
taxpayer dollars and double
dipping should be on this board.
Thank you for that. Secondly, I
took a trip up to Marysville
yesterday and ate breakfast
along the light rail system
where the maximum amount of
people that were on that light
rail were 13 people. The
minimum were four watched 16 of
the trains go by. It was just
like, what are we doing here? I
mean, I do like the way they
did the above ground light rail
because it definitely saves
space. But they also put in
these just massive light rail
stations like you see down in
Los Angeles, right? Which is,
is pointless when there's, you
know, seven people standing out
there. I think it's a waste of
money. I think it's a huge
waste of money. I also ask at
this board for them to research
with the IBR team, how many
pillars are on that bridge and
what is it going to take to
actually put those pillars in?
If we can only be in the the
water system for three and a
half months at a time, that's
that's a deciding factor of how
long this project actually
takes. And I'd like to know
where all that money was spent
ahead of this with the IBR team.
I'd like an itemized example of
where that money was spent. We
have already spent millions and
millions and millions and
millions of dollars on
something that hasn't even had
a shovel full of dirt yet. And
so those are my huge concerns
here. I mean, all these
counties are going away from
electric garbage trucks, LG gas,
garbage trucks. My friend buys
garbage trucks. That's why I
was in Marysville for bought a
brand new garbage truck from
2017. Didn't even have 74,000
miles on it. Looked like it was
brand new for $2,500. They're
getting rid of these things.
He's selling them to the city
of Gresham for 46,000. Right.
He just bought 14 more today in
Utah. They're going down to Los
Angeles because they're still
using the LG gas ones. The
problem is, is the state of
Washington has shut all those
facilities down. There's only
two gas stations up in Seattle
that you can even get LG gas at,
you know what I mean? And you
got to be trained to fill the
truck up. So anybody that buys
them has got to be trained to
be able to use that LG gas
station. But gasoline and
diesel are never going away. I
mean, I think everybody in this
room is probably smoking crack
cocaine. If they think so, it's
an impossibility. People need
to get to work. I couldn't get
to work if I was still working
in the trades. So anyways, I
appreciate your time. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Bruce. Anybody
online?
>> No, sir.
>> All right. And we will move
along to the consent items.
>> A list.
>> My name is William Burke and
I'm coming in at this time with
a couple of requests that might
not be voiced by the staff, but
they really want the Employee
Appreciation Day back again. I
guess there was an employee
appreciation day that people
that wrote on the routes could,
you know, make contributions or
whatever directly to. I don't
know how that worked out, but
it's my understanding that's
been kind of faded out doesn't
exist anymore. So that was
something that, you know, the
morale that's out there with
the drivers and stuff like that,
there's a loss there. There's a
loss there. Feeling like the
picnics you guys used to have
and stuff like that just isn't
there. So I said I'd be the
voice and I'd put that up. In
regards to the air filtration
system, I appreciate what
you've done for me. But with
regards to the filters that go
inside the Thermo King, on the
Gillig and on the free fliers,
could you partner with another
district that uses the same
models in order to save you
guys money? Because the
replacement on those is every
six months, basically every
10,000 miles or something like
that. But with the variants in
the Covid and other pathogens
that are becoming more
introduced into our system
right now, it's very important
for those filtration systems on
those busses to really be doing
their job, because it'll affect
the drivers, the drivers won't
be able to make it and they'll
be out sick. And that just puts
a stress on, you know, the
other drivers that have to fill
in and it becomes a human
resources problem that it's
actually work comp. So if it's
something that's not preventing
them from harm's way and it
makes them sick, it actually is
a work comp issue and it needs
to be looked at like that. So.
So I think if, if you could
partner with another district
in purchasing those bulk, you
know, and then making the
logistics of distribution
something aftermath, but in
getting those prices down,
because they're about 40 bucks
each for the free flier, the
large ones. This is really all
I have to say. But thank you
for hearing me.
>> Thanks for coming in. All
right. Next up, we have the
consent agenda consent items.
Was there anything that anybody
would like to pull from the
consent agenda?
>> Chair.
>> Move to approve the consent
agenda?
>> Do I hear a second?
>> I'll second.
>> There we go. We got a motion
and a second. And all those in
favor.
>> Aye, aye.
>> Opposed. Okay. We are going
to move on to action items.
Contract award. Electronic
access control replacement
staff report 26-039.
>> Julie thank you. Filling in
for Tim tonight. So I'm going
to try to get through his notes
as best I can. So 26 staff
report. 2639 is requesting the
replacement of C-TRAN existing
Amag electronic Access Control
system, which currently
incorporates secured electronic
access controls to 70 interior
and exterior doors and vehicles.
Gates across C-TRAN facility
infrastructure and provides
seven additional access control
points, doors and gates, and
the administrative building and
the 65th campus in 2024, an
assessment of our current
electronic access control
system was conducted by Hargis
Engineers, who identified
vulnerabilities associated with
our system, including proximity
card technology and unencrypted
communication between the card
readers and access control
panels. The assessment also
identified aging and
malfunctioning readers and
limitations with the existing
Amag symmetry software and
potential access control
performance during network
outages. These conditions
increase the risk of
unauthorized access and reduce
the reliability and
effectiveness of C-TRAN
facility infrastructure. Based
on the results of that
assessment, C-TRAN issued an
RFP in May 2026 for the
replacement improvement of its
existing electronic access
control system. C-TRAN received
a total of four proposals as
listed in the staff report, and
based on the evaluation results
and the Proposer's ability to
meet the requirements of the
RFP, Convergent technologies is
the recommended provider for
the Eac's improvements. The
total cost of the proposed
contract is not expected to
exceed 455,700 over the course
of the six year contract term.
This amount includes an
assumption for Washington state
sales tax and a 10% contingency
for capital expenditures. The
contract covers the capital
costs for hardware installation
and five years of licensing,
support and warranty costs, and
this is covered in our adopted
2025 2030 capital budget. Under
the line item for the C-TRAN
2030 2045 agency initiatives.
Any future budget will be
addressed when we do the next
budget development process. So
in conclusion, we are
requesting that the C-TRAN
Board of Directors authorizes
the Chief Executive Officer to
execute a contract with
convergent technologies for the
Electronic Access Control
Replacement project at a cost
not to exceed 455,700 over the
contract term. So again, happy
to answer any questions.
>> Councilmember.
>> Yes, I've got a question
with regards to this. The way
that society is turning into
you don't own anything anymore.
What I'm curious about is you
said that the licensing is for
five years. What happens after
that? Do we still own the
equipment or are we going to
have to pay additional funds
for them to work the system or
anything like that? Or is it
going to be that we flat out
own it, and it will continue to
operate without any expense to
the company?
>> I believe in this case we
are purchasing the equipment,
so the licensing would be for
the software, the back end
system that supports it.
>> Okay. And so are we going to
have to continue to pay to to
receive updates to that
software?
>> Yes.
>> There is an ongoing cost
component to that. Yes.
>> Whereas the system that we
have now, do we. Yes we do.
>> This is an extension of the
existing system. It's just
basically updating it, bringing
it asset maintenance, so to
speak.
>> Okay. Just out of curiosity,
were there any RFP that didn't
have any kind of a software
system that we had to subscribe
to?
>> Not for these types of for
the electronic controls, you're
always going to have the back
end system to manage for the
badging and what have.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you chair. Thanks,
Julie. Two questions. One of
them is, as per the previous
question by Commissioner Young,
it looks as though the contract
covers the cost of hardware
installation. And then the five
years of licensing is but not
ongoing software upgrades.
>> It's all built in. And I'm
going to invite staff because I
am covering for Tim on this. So
I don't have all the details,
but it's it's not it's the
ongoing support, which includes
those, the regular updates and
whatnot that you would get.
>> Okay.
>> So it's all built in.
>> Okay. Thank you. And then
secondly, for the not to exceed
455,000, that includes the 10%
contingency, correct?
>> Yes.
>> Is is there a provision to
have this come underneath that?
This is a not Trixi but is
there a provision for it to
come underneath it that cost?
>> Yeah. Contingencies are not
built into our contracts. Those
are there. If there is a need
to. You get vandalism on
equipment or something happens,
you have the ability to replace.
If we discover there's a door
that we needed to secure for
threat or vulnerability, we
would be able to add equipment
to a door. That's generally
what we do with a contingency
is for those minor changes or
adjustments that we have to
reconfigure for a particular,
in this case, for a potential
access point.
>> So is there an incentive for
the contractor to come in
underneath and not to exceed.
>> They don't get the not to
exceed amount. They. What we
will award to the contractor is
going to not include that 10%.
So that 10% is only for C-TRAN
use for an unforeseen condition.
>> Thank you.
>> Any other discussion or
questions? Do I hear a motion?
>> Motion to approve action
item number one contract award.
Electronic existential
replacement number 26-039.
>> Second.
>> We have a motion and a
second, no further discussion.
All those in favor say aye.
>> Aye.
>> Opposed. Moving forward to
action item number two for plan
extension, bus rapid transit,
BRT expansion project. Property
acquisition authorization staff
report 26-40 board resolution
BR26-006. Randy Parker.
>> Thank you, chair members of
the board, as you know, we've
been working hard on advancing
the design for the fourth line
extension project. We just
completed our 60% design review
both internally and externally
with the city staff. We are on
target to be at 90% by the end
of the year, and then we will
be seeking permits by Q1 of
2027. As such, we would like to
start the right of way
acquisition process. This is
the same process that we used
for highway 19, highway 99 and
the BRT project. I will note
that it is contingent on us
completing our Nepa process. We
are, excuse me, on schedule to
complete that by the end of the
year as well. There are 17
files for fourth line extension.
That's about half of what we
had on highway 99. So the
proposal before you this
evening is that the C-TRAN
board authorized the C, E, O
and C-TRAN staff to negotiate
for the property acquisitions
along the fourth Lane BRT
project corridor by adopting
board resolution BR26-006.
Questions. Answer any questions.
Is the.
>> Totality of this the
extension within the Vancouver
city limits?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Any other questions? Do I
hear a motion? Did I hear one?
>> Motion to approve fourth
extension BRT expansion project
property acquisition
authorization staff report
26-040.
>> Second.
>> And we have a motion and a
second by Council Member
Harless. All those in favor say
I.
>> I.
>> I opposed. Excellent moving
forward. Action item number
three mil plain bus rapid
transit BRT project Colf
westbound station property
acquisition authorization staff
report 26-041 board resolution.
BR 26-007. Randy, you're up
again.
>> Thank you. So this should
sound familiar. This is similar
to the previous resolution,
except this is for the
westbound station on Mill Plain.
We went on again start the
right of way acquisition
process. This project is a
little bit ahead of Fort Plain
Extension. We're at about 75%
level of design. The Nepa end
of it is completed. That was
part of the original Mill Plain
project, so we don't have to
wait for that. But we could
start legal descriptions and
appraisals straight away after
if assuming this gets approved.
So there are two files on this
project, so that should help.
So the proposal before you this
evening is that the C-TRAN
board authorizes the CEO and
C-TRAN staff to negotiate for
property acquisitions for the
westbound station by adopting
board resolution BR dash 26-007.
>> Question from the directors.
>> Approve action item number
three.
>> Second.
>> We have a motion and a
second to approve further
discussion. All those in favor,
say I.
>> I, I.
>> Opposed moving forward into
communications and I don't have
any communications. Does the
board. Or quiet group tonight.
Ryan helps out.
>> I'll help you out. No I
let's see. Wasn't this past
week and the weekend before I
signed up to do the 10-K at the
Portland Marathon, and I had an
errand to run downtown
Vancouver. So I was like, you
know what? I'm just going to,
you know, I'm going to ride the
bus and then do the transfer
down at Delta Park and ride the
light rail in just to see what
that experience was. And I mean,
admittedly, it, it took longer
than if I had driven, but I
didn't know what to expect
because of the I-5 construction
at the Rose quarter. But the
biggest takeaway for me was,
especially on the southbound
trip, the coach operator was
awesome. And, you know, clearly
I didn't tell him that I was a
board member or anything like
that. I just walked on and he
was super helpful to a lot of
people. And I don't know, that
just really stood out to me.
And it's just a testament to
the quality of our people. So
good work.
>> Excellent. Any others? All
right. Let's hear from our
Chief Executive Officer.
>> Thank you, Chair and board.
This week, I want to it was a
moment to recognize our
customer service team. So I
want to thank the customer
service for everything that
they do for C-TRAN and making
our customers, our community,
able to ride rides. We
celebrated them last week with
conjunction with National
Customer Service Week, but the
reality is that the team is
taking care of our riders and
community 365 days a year.
Throughout the week, our
representatives enjoyed some
special treats in the call
center, including a coffee bar
and soda bar that was sponsored
by management team. They all
seem to like their small
gestures, but they're on one
way. We can make sure our
employees feel seen, valued,
and appreciated, just as they
work every day to make our
riders feel supported. So thank
you again to the customer
service. Last month we had our
C-TRAN hosted our own local
rodeo for the first time in
more than a decade. It was a
great opportunity for team
building while also showcasing
the skills of our operators and
maintenance team members.
Events like this give employees
an opportunity to demonstrate
their skills, challenge
themselves, and have fun with
their colleagues. A big thank
you to all the C-TRAN employees
who volunteered their time to
make this event possible. I
also want to thank the visiting
transit agencies that came out
to support us and compete. And
a special thank you to Clark
College for allowing us to use
the parking lot on its main
campus for the driving portion
of the event. This was a
success, and we look forward to
continuing this tradition
moving forward. And last one,
and then this past week, I had
the opportunity to travel to
Chicago for the App to
Transform conference. I also
attended the People Forward
Leadership reception with
doctor Carol Parker Walsh, who
whom we continue to work with.
It's always valuable to connect
with transit colleagues from
across the country, hear what
others are doing, and share
some of the great work
happening here at C-TRAN in the
Southwest Washington area. I
also was honored to be able to
be a part of Doctor Carol's
People for Leadership podcast,
to share a little of my own
story and more importantly,
highlight the incredible team
we have here at C-TRAN. One
message that continues to
resonate with me when we
empower people to grow and
thrive in their individual,
individual roles, we elevate
the entire organization. So I
came away this week with a
proud work that we're doing and
excited about the opportunities
we have ahead, and that is all.
>> Excellent, legal.
>> Just real quick, could you
help us with the acronym Apta?
>> I'm sorry, American Public
Transportation Association. So
it's all transportation. It can
even go to not just transit. It
can either be air, air filled
or other rail. Thank you. Sorry.
Yes. So there's a there's rail
at conferences that happen as
well during different
throughout the year.
>> Next up we can hear from
legal Hong.
>> I don't have any update but
thank you for asking chair.
>> All right, all right. Well
then we will move into the
executive session. Executive
session RCW42 dot 30 .1101 G.
To evaluate the qualifications
of an applicant for the public
employment or to review the
performance of a public
employee, there will be no
action taken in the open. No
action taken in. Open session
time is estimated at 20 minutes
and the second, which is
executive session RCW42 dot 30
.11 01IIII if needed litigation
or legal risks of a proposed
action or current practice that
the agency has identified. When
public discussion of the
litigation or legal risks is
likely to result in an adverse
legal or financial consequence
to the agency, there will be no
action taken in. Open session
time is estimated at 20 minutes,
and it is right now 607 so 40
minutes would be. 647 and we
will go into executive session