Good afternoon and welcome. Calling to order the Regional Transportation Council. October 6th, 2026. Let's start with the roll call. Michelle Belkot present. Sue Marshall here. Wil Fuentes. Anne. McEnerny. Ogle. Present. Eric Paulson here. Masa Eshki here. Troy McCoy here. Asa Leckey. Present. Ron Ihrig here. Randy Parker here. Michael Southwick here. Larry Keister here. Dean Reynolds. Here. Ryan Windsheimer. Here. Christine Lewis. And House and Senate members of the 14th, 17th, 18th, 20th and 49th districts. Okay. Thank you. Are there any amendments to the agenda? And if not, I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda. >> Move to approve the agenda as presented. Paulson. >> Second. Moved and seconded. Thank you. All those in favor, say I. I. I. Okay. Thank you very much. Then moving on to public comments, we have a couple people who have signed up in the room. And just a reminder to limit your comments to three minutes. So we'll start with Bruce Barnes. >> Good afternoon, chair and board of directors here. My name is Bruce Barnes for the record. I want to talk about a few things today. One I'd like to ask that Wil Fuentes recuse himself from this committee because he's violated the county charter. With him being in charge of the fourth plan forward and also taking money from our county taxpayers, it's a violation of county charter, and I don't think he should be in any position to be making any recommendations or anything on any board until that is resolved. Secondly, I want to talk about highway 504. It's been four years since the road washed out at Mount Saint Helens. We used to have about 1.3 million visitors up there, and now there's about 130,000. And it's taken people's recreation away, especially mine and other people I know that like to go up and hunt and recreate and mountain bike and everything else up there. And not only that, but the businesses have severely suffered up there. When you look at the businesses that have gone out of business on highway 504, it's a it's a huge effect on a rural community. Secondly, I want to talk about highway 14 and the shape that that highway is in. It is destroyed and it's extremely dangerous. I watched a Porsche crash there three weeks ago. Injury accident because the road is just so rough. The other thing I'd like to talk about is the interstate bridge. I don't know if you guys have talked to any of the bicycle associations about putting a toll on the bicycles, going across the new interstate bridge, I'm sure you're going to have some huge backlash for bicyclists crossing the bridge and being charged a toll fee. I just I don't know how much more money people can pay their absorbed already property taxes, fuel taxes, food. I mean, at what point are we giving up 90% of our income to build things that most people don't want? So I don't know. I just think that we need to improve our roadways first and foremost and make them safer. And I guess that's all I got for today. Thanks so much. >> Thank you. Next up is Carmen de Leon. >> Hello. So where's my timer? Oh, there you go. Okay, so I'm Carmen de Leon, also known as mellow. And I think I've gone over to prices with you already. They claim to have secured 2 billion for the bridge. And according to my little study here, the Fremont Bridge in today's money was 600 million would be 600 million. The 205 bridge again, 600 million. Ross Island Bridge, about 40 million. I-5 bridge 13,000,000 billion. So you know what is wrong with the math here? You can make three other bridges for a quarter of the amount of money. And yet they want to push this billion dollar Uhl doesn't need to be done because we've had four now. Engineers say that that bridge is sound. It does not need to be demolished. So in other words, why is it historically registered if they just want to tear it down and they have enough money to make other bridges, not to mention expanding 205 and adding two lanes on each side. Not only do you have enough room on the outside, but when you go into between Salem and say, PDX, you can actually add lanes on the inside. So you're not buying more property, you're just adding lanes inward instead of outward. So, and I don't think that would cost in the billions to go ahead and expand what is already there without further further purchasing. Let me see. What else do I have? When we went to the transportation thing with all the legislators, we did get cut short. All us public just had three minutes, but all the people with suits and ties and appeared to be the public that were paid legislators and paid people bidding for these contracts. Oh, they they were allowed 15 minutes. But us public, we got shut up and shut out the way the city of Vancouver likes to shut people out illegally. So it appears that everybody's in agreement when really they're silencing all the naysayers, because that way they look like they're in control. When actually the only people who need to be in control are the ones who feel out of control and are weak and are bullies. That's where it comes from. That psychotic need to micromanage is because in your subconscious, somewhere, you didn't have control. Now you have to control everything, even if you lie. So that's how the the human consciousness works. And unfortunately, these people like to be spending money. And like I've said now, I waited for last. We could be making 40 bucks a pop like the Space Needle, when all we have to do is make a tourist attraction. Instead of picking apart every parcel and digging up all the holes, make money off the land. I've been all over the United States, and we have the unique opportunity here with these trees and with our environment to make money to compete with the Space Needle. I've said it before we can make our own Space Needle. We need a giant tree, build a tram to it, and charge 40 bucks a. Pop and make money instead of spending it. Man. >> Is there anyone online? No one online. Okay. That concludes public comment. Moving on to the consent agenda, we have item A through J. Would anyone like to pull any items from the consent agenda? Yes. Chair. Yes. Go ahead. Item C, D, and j, C, d, j. For the remaining items. I'll entertain a motion to approve. >> Move to approve. Paulson. >> Thank you. Is there a second? Second McEnerny Ogle. Okay. Moved and seconded. Thank you. All those in favor say I I I I. Okay, then let's move to item C. Item C is the resolution to hire James McNamara. First of all, I would like to say Ted Gathe has served remarkably well in our legal counsel for many, many years. Thank you, Ted, for all of your great work. Sorry to see you retire, but no, you have some great opportunities ahead of you, but I believe James McNamara, as noted, was the attorney for the City of Vancouver for nine years. I worked with him on the Planning Commission and on several different other boards and commissions. He is an excellent choice and we're happy to support that choice. Thank you for those comments. Any other comments? Yes. Go ahead. >> I just wanted to add that I had the good fortune of hiring Jim for that position. He went on to receive a gubernatorial appointment to the Growth Hearings Board. So he's had experience at that level. And then he returned to be the city of Longview City attorney for a number of years before finally finishing a second term on the Growth Hearings board. So I think he's going to bring excellent legal resources to this body. And I couldn't be more happy to be to see him as my successor. >> So thanks for those comments and thanks for your service all these years. Any other comments? Okay, I'll entertain a motion on item C, so move and McEnerny Ogle. It's been moved. Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. Michelle Belkot. >> Thank you very much. Moved and seconded. All those in favor say I, I I motion carries. Okay on to D. This is consent agenda item D proposed amendments to appendix D unfunded planning activities. The city of the cities of Vancouver and Camas are happy to see that there is a unanimous recommendation to the Board of Directors to amend this and to add 200,000 to the discretionary grant funds, especially adding the North East 18th Street East Extension feasibility study. We believe that this is an absolute must for the future corridor and right of way, so we are happy to support this. Okay. Thank you. Are there any further comments on item D? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve. >> Move to approve. Paulson. >> Thank you. Second moved and seconded. Thank you. All those in favor, say I, I motion carries. Okay, then down to J. This is one that we spoke about before city of Vancouver. It's a little sad that our 33rd Street pedestrian Enhancement project scored so lowly. In looking at the scoring guide, it appears that the scoring criteria is for new sidewalks. ET cetera. ET cetera. And not changing existing corridors so that they meet the new complete streets criteria. So the City of Vancouver will continue to work with our TTC staff and take a look at that scoring guide, so that the idea of a complete street is also part of the new scoring guide. And I'd be happy to move item J. Okay. Are there any further comments? Been moved. Is there a second? Second moved and seconded. All those in favor say I, I I motion carries. Okay, moving on to presentation transportation improvement program. And Dale Robbins is coming up to tell us about that. >> So I am filling in for Jennifer today. First of all, I would like to really thank Julia from our ETC staff who actually did all the preparation of this document. She put a lot of work into it as we are trying to do some cross training and letting other staff learn how to do things like this. Julie is our newest employee at RTC. New projects have been added to the the documents since the original draft went out for public review. First of all, we added three safety federal Safety grant projects. Those were selected in mid September after our public involvement started, and we have added those into the document. They include Vancouver's 112th Avenue Safety Improvement Campus, Northeast Third Avenue Reconfiguration and Cowlitz Indian Tribe safety improvements on northwest 31st Avenue. The Vancouver and campus projects are a direct result of the local road safety plans that RTC funded last year. Also, we. As we did our review, we realized we had two other projects that we missed Camas Lake Road Transportation Alternative Grant, which we just awarded the grant from to. And that was missed out. And also the Transportation Future project was also added. Long standing project in our Unified Planning Work program. So basically, the transportation improvement is a federal requirement that we have to prepare one. It's really a. We also have a programing guidebook that leads and guides our process and all projects that are in the transportation improvement program must be consistent with the regional transportation plan. The Transportation Improvement Program is composed of transportation projects that address the regional transportation system needs. Within Clark County. The tip is prepared annually and must be. And we amend it quite frequently during the year as project changes occur only regionally. Significant projects that plan to be obligated funds within the next four years are included in the tip. That's an important distinction. So it's not a programing. It is a programing document. It's not an expenditure document. So you could obligate funds one year and be spending them the next year. And it would not show up in the tip as often. Construction projects often go multiple years, for example. This is the overall selection process and how we do it. You know, basically local agencies determine what their priority projects are and submit grant applications to RTC. RTC has a project review, and then we do a. That's just to make sure that the application is completely filled out so that we can do the evaluation. Then we do an evaluation and select projects. We have a public comment period, and then the board adopts the Transportation Improvement program and the document that you're hopefully going to approve today begins next year. So agencies starting in January implement those projects. The first two years of the Transportation Improvement program are considered selected projects, which means those projects in either 2027 or 2028 would be able to start moving forward in January. We programing $5.1 billion in the transportation improvement program that includes 1.5 billion in federal transportation funds. This includes $42.8 million of RTC board selected regional federal grants. The Transportation Improvement Program after your adoption will then become part of the State Transportation Improvement Program, and projects again can begin implementation next year. Projects listed in the Stip are required. Are. Receive authorization for use of federal funds. It's a requirement to be in the state to be able to receive federal funds. One of the things that we need to know is that we are currently at the end of the Federal Transportation Funding Act. It's expired. We have currently a continuation, but our understanding of the new bill that will hopefully come forward in the next short period of time carbon reduction program will no longer be included. And because of that, Washington State Department of Transportation is not allowing us to continue to program carbon reduction programs that weren't received prior to well, it would be this year or earlier. RTC has committed funding to several projects with carbon Reduction program, and we have promised to keep those projects whole. And in order to do that, we did have to as part of this transportation improvement program, move some projects to CMac or SGDBG funding to make sure that we could make our commitments to those projects. And that's part of the reason why we didn't do a call for projects for the whole program this year. It was really limited to the Transportation alternative program. There are still potentials and opportunities for our policies to to change over time as we continue to do our transportation program, and we allow that process to guide us. So hopefully, you saw the actual document over on the side or you have at your table. We are looking for approval of resolution ten dash 26-39, which would adopt the 2027 to 2030 Transportation Improvement Program. >> Okay. Thank you. Are there any questions, comments? Chair, I move the resolution. 1020 639 okay. Thank you for your motion. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed no motion carries. Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. A couple comments just to follow up to the tip report. It's noted in the staff memo that tomorrow our partners in Skamania and Klickitat County, the joint meeting is being held. They are reviewing their tip document. Adam FIS has prepared it. And they're going to adopt the reason why Skamania and Klickitat adopt their tip. Separate from Clark County is because those two counties administer the federal funds as a lead agency. So under our MPO designation, we're the lead agency for Clark County, and then Skamania and Klickitat individually are lead agencies over their funds, but we support them through tip development and project review and so forth. And so that will be an action of the board tomorrow, which is why we published their documents just for public information purposes. The second comment, this is just a brief follow up to our conversation last month about the city of Washougal 32nd rail Overcrossing project. And we had a very extensive review of their funding. And there was a project delay exception that was granted earlier in this meeting, received an update from the City administrator, city manager at City of Washougal, and he said that the state contribution allocated under the move ahead Washington bill, it was originally $8 million. It's since then been increased to. Let me get the number correctly, 18 million. So just since our last meeting, there was additional funding awarded through the MAW process. How that occurred, I'm not exactly sure, but other than to say they continue to make progress and pulling together their funding program. And since then also we had a consultation review with Washougal. We understand they had a meeting with Washdot Local Programs division, who's the administrator of the statewide funds. And we can't report progress on the discussions with Fra other than to say other everybody is meeting. We're making at least the consultation coordination. So we're hopeful. But I wanted to report that because I know the board's extremely interested in the progress of that project. That's a lot of money, $10 million. >> That's that's very good news. Thanks for adding that. Okay. We're moving on to several discussion and information items. 2026 coordinated public transit, Human services, transportation Plan for Clark, Klickitat and Skamania counties. Update and Adams already raring to go there. >> Thank you. You mentioned I'll be discussing the 2026 Coordinated Public Transit Human Services Transportation plan for Klickitat, Skamania, and Clark County. I. I think I can shave a few minutes off the presentation by just referring to it as the HSP. So when I do just know that I'm talking about the CPG, HSP, we're bringing this to you today as a discussion item, an opportunity to unpack the draft plan. I'll be returning in November, seeking your endorsement on the plan itself, including in your meeting packet. Is the draft HSP, which has been updated to reflect comments received during the 30 day public comment period. We received about 60 comments from stakeholders, public agencies and the document that you have in your packet is reflective of that. I hope to cover key elements of the document in my presentation today and answer any questions that you might have. We wanted to start the presentation by highlighting the grant opportunity that the Human Services Plan, the Hsrp, unlocks. The consolidated Grant program is a biennial statewide program that supports planning, bus procurement, operation and maintenance costs associated with public transportation programs. Since C-TRAN receives FTA or Federal Transit Administration funding directly, the consolidated grant program supports smaller operations such as Mount Adams Transit and Klickitat County. Skamania Transit and Nia County, as well as Community in motion in all three counties, the Washington State DOT manages the Consolidated Grants program and is responsible for distributing state and federal funds through this program. It gets its name because it is a consolidation of various federal and state transit funds. 20% of the funds, for example, come from the Climate Commitment Act. 70% are coming from federal sources. To be eligible to receive these funds, applicants are required to participate in the HSP planning process with their local TPO, and a project must be clearly defined and identified in that region's HSP, which. I'll turn to you now. I will be talking about the Consolidated Grants program just a bit at the end as well. So federal and state transportation regulation requires the update and development of a HSP about every four years for Clark, Klickitat and counties. The plan seeks to address the transportation needs of those with mobility challenges and special transportation needs, including elderly youth, people with disabilities, low income populations, and and rural residents without access to transportation. Target populations are. We generally refer to these groups as our target populations, and I'll be referring to them in this presentation as that the first HSP for this region was developed in 2007, and the plan has been updated. As I say, every every four years. The most recent plan and our current copy is the 2022 addition. And now we're working on the 2026. So the FTA, the Federal Transit Administration provides guidance on what Hsps must include. Wasch Dot takes this guidance and provides detailed instructions for developing the plan. Each planning cycle. Wasch Dot establishes required elements that must be included in the plan and for this update, Wasch Dot has instructed us to include seven required elements which I've included on this slide. The four core FTA requirements are circled on this slide as well. Just to give you a sense of where some of these requirements are coming from, I'll pause on the slide for a few minutes as I work through the different elements and talk about how we've we've achieved them. Roughly speaking, though, each element you can find as a chapter in this. In this plan, you may notice that there are more than seven chapters. It's because Washdot has provided us with additional opportunities beyond the seven elements that we can consider in developing a strong human services transportation plan. So we've taken those opportunities and sought to achieve them as well. So I'll start with the stakeholder and public engagement, because there are keys to the success of of a successful HSP engaging the appropriate organizations and individuals. And the planning efforts is critical to identifying the needs of the target populations and the needs of the community and the region. Identifying the formal the informal transportation services available, and identifying solutions to fill any transportation gaps that we may find. RTC conducted outreach to people with disabilities, seniors, low income people, and other special population special needs populations, and the outreach also included regional tribes and representatives from public, private and nonprofit providers. Outreach was completed through survey, in person and online and in person, and primarily through some meetings. I'll talk about the survey in the next slide, but I just want to mention that in terms of committees, we staff at RTC work closely with the Accessible Transportation Coalition initiative, the Clark County Commission on Aging, C-TRAN Community Advisory Committee, and the others RTC led committees such as Regional Transportation Advisory Committee and the Transportation Policy Committee, Klickitat and Skamania. So regional context, which is number four, element number four is explored in chapters two and three. Chapter two provides an overview of the three county region and the common origin destinations, which is a requirement by Wasch dot chapter three details the number and characteristics of people in the region who have special transportation needs, or may be at greater risk of experiencing transportation barriers. The analysis is centered around the target populations I mentioned, and various figures, maps and data are presented for Clark, Klickitat and Skamania counties and where available, the cities within them. Residents in this region often travel through each other's jurisdictions. And because of this, and I think it's new to this update, wherever possible, we've combined Klickitat, Skamania and Clark counties to look at the different elements I just talked about in the different demographics across the three counties. Service assessment is found in chapter five and broken up by county. The section is supported by transit agencies who provided us with information on the services they offer. Additional providers were identified and included in this update. Expanding the understanding of available services and transportation needs. The chapter details the different transportation service providers and their days and hours of operation. The next chapter. Chapter six Service Gap Assessment tackles element six. The chapter examines unmet transportation needs across the region. The analysis addresses the demand for service not only in transit disadvantaged populations, but also among population. The general population, which you can find on pages 71 to 77. It identifies the transportation options that must be maintained, expanded and improved across the three counties. The major unmet needs are listed. Going back to the beginning of my presentation, the needs identified are essential to receiving consolidated grant funding. So it's very important to us to be working closely with the providers and the folks that are applying for this grant funding to make sure that the projects are identified clearly so they can unlock that funding. The final element, which is to address service gaps and regional priorities, are considered in the plans. Next two chapters. The strategies are informed by the transportation needs and gaps identified throughout the plan, and are intended to guide coordination and efforts to coordinate local agencies, transportation providers and community partners. They include, but aren't limited to, maintaining on demand service bus barns in in the gorge region, emergency management, travel trainers, mobility managers, etc. it's. We try to have a broad tent to make sure that over the next four years, when folks are applying for consolidated grant funding, this document is still relevant. Both this biennium and next. Based on these strategies, local agencies cooperatively develop projects to meet transportation needs identified in the previous chapters and informed by earlier elements. In addition to these required elements, we have also sought to achieve some of the optional elements provided by Wasch dot through ongoing coordination opportunities. I just want to highlight the Transportation Needs survey, which we completed this past summer. As part of the engagement process. I say engagement. I think we did engagement in a variety of ways to inform and engage people on on this planning effort, but also to hear and understand what the needs are of of Clark, Klickitat and Skamania County residents. So we worked pretty hard to get this out. And we received 244 responses. You'll find all of those responses in appendix B of the plan. We tried to summarize them throughout the plan. A lot of what we heard was an incredible gratitude for the services that are available for the people that are helping people get to where they need to go. With the travel trailers, especially getting a lot of shout outs for the great work that they do in terms of needs, a lot of requests for expanded service, expanded hours in the day, and especially in the gorge region. The addition of weekend service. As well. On the last point, an improved first mile, last mile connection. So you can think about the first mile, last mile connection as if you're riding the bus. It's the distance between where the bus stops and where you're trying to get to, whether it's home or work or shopping or errands. That can be a huge barrier for a lot of folks that are taking the bus or would take the bus. So understanding and easing the barrier that that might pose is something that we, we considered in this plan. I just want to mention that the. Survey was available in in hard copy, in English and in Spanish online. I know it says in English and Spanish online, you could translate it to to any language, which is a common feedback we received from some of the committees. We. We brought this to. So this is the timeline. As I mentioned, I'll be back in November to seek your endorsement. This would meet the December 1st deadline that Washdot has set for us, and that will then flow into the consolidated grants process. We're already working to assemble a review committee that is, you know, well, reflective of of the region. So we're looking for folks from across the region to, to join this effort and help us review the different documents. But we'll be coming back. Myself or Jennifer will be coming back in the next few months to talk more about the consolidated grant process and come back in January, likely January 2027, to seek your endorsement for the for the consolidated grant project rankings. So we're yeah, I would say near the end of this project with you in your packet is a, you know, a pretty far along draft. It reflects all of the comments we received during the during the comment period. We'll be going to Artak later this month. And due to the Tpcs tomorrow to seek their endorsement before returning in November for for yours as well. Happy to answer any questions right now. >> Great. Thank you very much. Are there any questions anyone online? Okay. Just to note that this needs to be submitted to Wasch dot December 1st and that this will be an action item next month. Okay. Thanks very much. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Moving on to Vancouver area smart Trek, otherwise known as vast. And Dale Robbins will be presenting again. >> If I could refer everyone to the yellow memo. Attached to that is the Transportation System Management and Operation plan. Let me begin really by explaining a little bit about what vast or Vancouver area smart Trek is. It's really a partnership between local agencies that's been managed by RTC since 2001. The local partners are Washington State Department of Transportation, Clark County, Vancouver, Camas and C-TRAN. And basically, these agencies are working together to enhance the transportation, the existing transportation network and improve safety without adding road capacity. One of the key plans for this program is really the Transportation System Management and Operations Plan, which is attached. I am proud of that document. It's only 23 pages long. When was the last time you saw a planner write something that short? I'm sorry, but it's straight to the point to help also better understand the vast program. I just want to kind of highlight some of the key strategies that we use for that. That includes traffic incident management, traffic signal coordination, traveler information managed lanes, weather management, freight and transit management. It's basically trying to get the existing system to work at its optimal. The plan update discusses why this matters and outlines goals, aligns agency staffing roles and integration, and prioritizes specific strategies. Rather than relying solely on standalone technology, good transportation system management and operations implement implementation requires leadership, buy in and a clear vision. It requires becoming part of an institutional practice that leads to well coordinated, on the ground implement implementation that optimizes safety, efficiency, reliability of the existing transportation system. The 2026 update to the plan reflects how practices have evolved, creating a more holistic approach is no longer just about technology. It's about integrating technology and operations within an agency. The plan also establishes attainable near medium and long term priorities. This slide is a little hard to read, but this is the near term. Strategies. Those that are in the brown box are the ones that were really concentrating with our vast committees on working on the other ones. A lot of them are actually being implemented by local agencies on their own. I just want to highlight a couple of them. One of the things that really we have identified is the need to really develop a fiber renewal, resiliency and asset plan, just like we have asset plans for pavement bridges and everything else about when do we need to replace and maintain those things. We really need to develop a resiliency plan on how to maintain the equipment that we have out in the field. And so that's one of the things that we're working on and hope to have done next year. Also, we need to maintain a shared understanding of purpose, roles, and expectations. One of the things that we have developed is we have a draft charter that we have developed really circulating amongst agencies and getting their input. It's I think we're at the final stage. We're ready for moving forward with signatures, but that's really to help agencies all work together and to have a common cause as we move forward. Another thing is training ladder. We did we went out and really found all the various training that's out there. So whether it's a signal tech, city engineer, a planner, we identified classes that are available, often free online. Some are paid in person that staff can go to to learn how to really integrate this within their agency. And the last thing I wanted to really highlight was the we really don't currently have standards for the region. City of Vancouver might have certain technology that they use. The county has different technology. Washington State Department of Transportation has their own technology. One of the things that we need to discuss is really about should we maintain common equipment, there are potentially a cost savings associated with doing such a thing, and also expectation of the driving public that can be improved if we have common standards that we use. So that's really my update on the plan. I'd be glad to answer any questions. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Dale. Are there any questions? Anyone online? I don't see any. And this one will be back to us in November for approval. >> No, no, no action on this. This is just a. >> Plan. In November. >> We don't don't need an action. >> Okay. >> But my notes are. >> All right. Thanks very much for the presentation. >> I'm doing the next one too. >> Oh, there's a next one. Oh, okay. That's that's the one. There might be action in November. Okay. I'm new at this. >> All right. Next I'd like to introduce the vast 25 year program report. Hopefully you have a copy of that. If not, they're available over there on the table to the side. RTC develops an annual report on the vast program. But this year we are celebrating 25 years of the regional partnership of the vast program and have developed this 25 year folio, which is attached to the salmon colored memo in your packet. Over the past 25 years, this collaborative collaboration has helped advance the regional transportation system through shared communication, transportation data archiving, implementation of intelligent transportation system, and improved transportation operations. This slide shows some of the key figures associated with the vast program. There's a variety of them. The one that probably will catch your attention is the upper middle one. And really, the difference in the cost of installing fiber and sharing fiber amongst local agencies is saving key agencies over $100,000 per month, compared to what private fiber would cost them. So this is really a beneficial program to all the regional partners in the region. Also, within the folio, we kind of have a time graphic that outlines key milestones of the program. There's a lot of significant things that occurred over the time that you can look into and see, I'm not going to go through all of them. And then on the second page, I'd like to highlight a quote from RTC retired program manager, who really managed this program for the first two decades, and that's from Bob Hart. He said the most important factors for success of the program are agency partnerships, cooperative projects, staying active, and a shared vision for the future. Really, this program is really based on cooperative working relationships amongst those agencies. This is our key stakeholders that are involved in the process. I would note that we are holding our annual vast committee meeting later this month in October. We have invited all the public works people and network people from the local agencies to participate in that meeting. Hopefully we can eventually we we see this program being expanded out to Washougal Battleground Ridgefield. And so we want to make sure that they're aware of the program at least once a year, bring them in and have them participate with that. With that, I am completed. Glad to answer questions. >> Are there any questions? Oh, we have some comments from the director. >> All right. Thank you, Madam Chair, and I apologize about my Scrivener Notes. >> Oh no. >> It's yeah. So I when I asked the Dale, who's currently leading the program and in the team to just really provide a 25 year reflection, I had forgotten about some of the very monumental and noteworthy activities of the program. So just again, big picture context here is many MPOs don't run their or it's or whatever kind of programs. It's the obligation under federal law is that the MPO prepares the plan. And that's one of the mandated plans that the MPO is obligated to produce. Beyond that, then agencies go off and do whatever they choose to do. Some regions have a coordinating committee that's hosted maybe by the county, or maybe by the city, or maybe by the Department of Transportation. And we chose within this region, not 25 years ago, but roughly 25 years ago, that RTC being the neutral party around the table. We don't own any equipment. We don't operate the system that we may be a good convener of this conversation. And what you see is that the program, over the course of 25 years has maintained the minimum. So we produce the plan updates, we evaluate the different documents. For example, there's one referred to here as an architecture plan. The architecture plan is, you know, where's the fiber going to go and how is it going to go and how are people going to share it? Sort of like literally some plans in a building referred to as an architecture, there are other mandated components. And so as RTC being the convener, I think the question and it's always nice to reflect is, is the convening been productive? Have we achieved anything out of it? And so when I look at this 25 year report, I would probably surmise, yeah, we've done some pretty really good projects. We've fulfilled the obligation of convening. We have commissioned special studies. A few listed here that I'll refer to resulted in things in the field. We commissioned and convened the bus on bus, on shoulder, feasibility study. And those of you that were around then may recall there was some controversy even at the time. Why would we want to run the busses on the shoulder? And then the converse is, well, the shoulders are you might as well run the bus on it. So we brought in some national experts from Minnesota, had a community conversation, as we should in partnership to try to figure out should we do this? And then piloted the first project on SR 14. It's since expanded on I-5, etc. and coincidentally, at the time, we brought Oregon Department of Transportation and Tri-met into the conversation. When we concluded that work, they said, well, we're not ready yet. But now if you go to Odot, they've authorized a test pilots on the 205 bridge. Then for Wilsonville Smart. And I even see on 205 they've deployed. So sometimes, you know, we're leading. And that's a good example of RTC leading an initiative and a group process. Another that you have heard reports on and you'll see a final report next year is the Regional Signal Timing pilot program. It's being hosted under the umbrella of vast. So vast is in some regard, the steering committee, the advisory committee, but vast. Not all partners have signals that that are affected by it. And so, again, having this technical group convene, working on signal management, C-TRAN at the table, working on transit signal priority is the right host for that. So without belaboring the point, when I look at the work here, and there's the the thing that has the chronology of all the different activities, I'm left with the conclusion, which is I think it's a good initiative. So we have to do it. So we do. And then the question is, is a fulfilling more than we just minimally have to do. And I think the answer is probably yes. And then as this plan lays out, as it was reported, what more can we do? And so I just wrap up the 25 year assessment saying, I think this is a good forum. I think RTC, unless somebody says otherwise, is an appropriate convener. We do take some regional SB DSTBG dollars and use those to fund the program. So it covers consulting fees because we we're not experts in traffic signal and technology. And so we bring in consultants. Our current consultant is named citizen engineers are very qualified, been with the program. Some of their staff have been with the program since 2001. So we have the benefit of just the longevity of some of their technical consulting expertise through their personnel. But I think we continue, and I think these next steps that Dale identified in the plan, creating that charter part of it is people forget. So I happen to remember these things because I coincidentally was a Vancouver employee in 2001. So I know how this started. But when I'm gone or other people are gone to have that charter for continuity, why are we here? What are we trying to accomplish? I think that's what we're trying to do. You don't see this a lot, but I think this is a good moment to just sit and say, I think it's I think the program is running pretty well right now, and we look for those new opportunities of studies that we don't know we should be doing, but that we should probably take up. And I think we have the capacity to do it. So those are my comments. Thank you. >> Great. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? I agree with you. It's good to look back and remember what's gone on. Okay. Next up is resiliency assessment plan, Clark County Regional draft. And Judith is here to present. Welcome. >> Thank you. Good afternoon. So last April we brought to you an amended regional Emergency transportation Routes network map and introduced the Resiliency Assessment Plan. Tonight, I am going to walk through what we learned through that process. And then next month I will return to ask for you to consider adopting this plan. So let's start by asking or telling you why this work matters. A reliable transportation system is something we often take for granted. It connects people to jobs and services, supports businesses and freight, and help our community function every day. But that reliability cannot be can be disrupted by a wide variety of events, from earthquakes, landslides and severe weather to infrastructure failures and other emergencies. We cannot predict exactly when or where the next disruption will occur. What we can do is to make the transportation system better, prepare to handle those disruptions, recover more quickly, and adapt to as conditions change. So that's the purpose of Rtc's Resiliency Assessment Plan. The plan takes a regional look at transportation resiliency and ask, where are we most at risk and what can we do about it? It builds on the emergency >> Management and transportation planning work that is already happening in the county, but takes a more proactive approach. So rather than waiting for a disruption and then figuring out how to respond, the goal is to identify opportunities now through planning, maintenance, and investment that can make the system more resilient over time. So I am. Importantly, this is a regional effort. Transportation doesn't stop at jurisdictional boundaries. So resiliency planning shouldn't either. Stakeholders input was a key part of this process from beginning to end. We had every city in Clark County, the county. We had C-TRAN. Wasch dot Uhl the Corissa. We also had the PUD and the Regional Wastewater District participated through this event. We had three main rounds of engagement and each one helped the work. In the first round, stakeholders helped us develop and refine the regional emergency transportation routes. Local knowledge helped us make sure that the routes reflected the needs and priority of Clark County. The second round focused on how we will assess risks. We share our approach with stakeholders and their feedback led to changes in both the scoring approach and the importance we place on the different routes. Then in July, we brought the results back to the stakeholders along with the draft strategies and performance measures. That feedback helped shape the recommendations in this document included in the meeting materials. So stakeholders engagement wasn't just a check the box exercise, it directly influenced the routes, the assessment and ultimately the recommendations. Before we go into the risk assessment, let's quickly revisit the regional emergency transportation routes or RET R's, because they provide a foundation for this work. RETRSR priority roadways that when we that we want to be able to assess quickly and also clear quickly following a major emergency or disaster. The writers were originally identified through Metro's regional project in 2021, which looked across five counties, including Clark. Here in Clark County, RTC worked with local stakeholders to review those routes and make sure that they make sense from a local perspective. That process resulted in several changes. We added routes based on local knowledge, critical infrastructure and information from the Clark County Hazardous Mitigation Plan. We also adjusted the priority tiers for some routes that were specifically important for regional connections or access to critical facilities. And for this plan, the RETR network gave us the where the network of roads we are evaluating for resiliency. So once we knew which roads we were looking at, the next question was how do we identify where the biggest resiliency challenges are? We started by looking at the hazards that can affect transportation in Clark County, and the ways those hazards could disrupt the RETR network. When the. Then we then develop a consistent way to look at all the routes and compare them. The assessment ultimately comes down to two questions. The first, how vulnerable is the route? In other words, how likely is it to be affected by a hazard. And how critical is the route? If the road was disrupted, how significant would be the impact on the transportation system? So those two questions are important because they tell us different things. A road might be important to the transportation system, but relatively unlikely to be damaged. Another road might be highly exposed to hazards but have other routes available if it is disrupted. So by looking at both, we get a more complete picture of where resiliency efforts might be most valuable. And that's really the purpose of this assessment to help us focus attention on the corridors where resiliency improvements could make the biggest difference. Let's start with vulnerability. Here we are asking, where are our roads more susceptible to disruption? We look at things like exposure to hazards, characteristics of the road and the condition of bridges. The map on the screen shows the resulting vulnerability scores across the r e, t r network. One thing you will notice is that some of the higher vulnerability areas are in the rural parts of the county, and that's largely because some of those areas have greater exposures to natural hazards. For example, areas near rivers or in forest terrains where landslides might be a concern. And it is also important to note that state, the state routes are not included here because Washdot is looking at those facilities separately through their own resiliency planning. But we are working closely with Washdot to help evaluate and coordinate the r, e, t, r systems and priority. So the main takeaways for this map is that it shows us where the RETR network is more susceptible to disruption. The second piece is criticality. Here the question is if the road was disrupted, how much would it matter? We look at factors as the RETR priority tier traffic volumes, where there were alternative routes and what we heard from stakeholders. Those factors help us understand which roads are especially important for things like regional connections, access to services, freight and everyday travel. You can see that many of the higher criticality scores are in the urban areas, where roads serve larger populations and more activity. But there are also important roller corridors. Washougal River road is one example. Part of what makes it critical is that there are not many viable alternatives. If the road was disrupted. And that is an important distinction. Vulnerability tells us where disruption is more likely to happen. Criticality tells how much it mattered. If it does. Now we can bring those two pieces together. This map shows the overall risk results from the RETR network. The orange and the red represent corridors where vulnerability and criticality come together to produce higher overall risk. And one of the things that stand out is that these corridors are not limited to the urban core. We see higher risk locations in both urban and rural parts of the county. And that is important because different parts of the transportation system face different resiliency challenges. So corridors might be highly exposed to hazards and others might be critical because they are few alternative. And some have both characteristics. The plan goes one step further by identifying the highest scoring routes and explaining what is driven driving the risk. And that gives regional partners a starting point to ask, where should we focus our attention and investment? This slide on the screen shows ten out of the 20 risk scoring routes within the RETR network. You can see the full list on table two in the plan. These corridors are the highest priorities for additional evaluation. Has resiliency improvements are incorporated into transportation planning, capital programing, and asset management activities. These rankings provide a planning level prioritization and should not be interpreted as absolute measures of risk. But identifying risks is not the end goal of this plan. The real question is what do we do about it? The risk assessment provides the foundation for the recommendations of the plan. The plan brings together the assessment findings, priority actions and potential performance measures that can help regional and local agencies incorporate resiliency into their ongoing work. The recommendations are focused on practical opportunities to reduce risk, improve transportation system performance, provide redundancy where needed, and make the network better able to withstand and recover from disruptions. This slide simplifies table three in the plan and presents recommended implementation actions that RTC and its partner agencies can consider when updating plans, such as the Regional Transportation plan, the Transportation System plan, capital improvement programs, climate action elements or plans, etc. And that's the really the shift that we are trying to make from reacting to disruptions to preparing for them. The plan gives regional partners a framework for making resiliency part of everyday transportation, planning and investment decisions, not something we only think about after a major event occurs. So if we step back the story straightforward. We started with the need to make our transportation system more resilient. We identified the RETR network as the focus of the assessment. Then we look at both vulnerability and criticality to understand where disruptions could have the greatest consequences. And now the plan takes those findings and turn them into actions. I'm happy to answer any questions regarding the resiliency plan. >> Great. Thank you for that report. Are there any questions comments? Yes, please go ahead. >> Thank you. I do have a question. Larry keister, I see that Washougal River road is one of the key concerns. You identified. That State Route 14 is managed by Wasch Dot is there a relationship or working together with Washdot? Because Washougal River road empties onto SR 14, SR 14 to the west. We've got the camera Slough Bridge, which is a major concern to our community. >> Yeah, Washdot is undergoing a similar process right now statewide, and all the routes and the maps that are in blue, which is our state routes, they are providing a similar tier. So they will have tier one, tier two, tier three. It's just that they are in the midst of that process right now. >> Other questions? Yes. Go ahead. >> Thanks for the information. >> So my. >> Question is, when you were looking at the network of. >> The transportation networks. How did the airports not just PDX all airports, we have come and play to. >> Determine the level of resiliency or the options we have. Yeah, I don't think that I can't remember and I apologize for that. So I will have to get back to you. But I don't remember if that was one of the vulnerability factors. What we look the proximity of airports. I know we extensively look at the proximity of where the Public works offices were, where the C-TRAN had their busses, where the hospitals were, where maintenance could access materials to do some of the recovery work. So there were key elements talking about water. Where were the main water lines that we have to, you know, get those those corridors up and running right away. But I have to check and remember about the airports. Apologize for that. Thank you. What I suggest is maybe you take a look at it as an element, because airports we have in Vancouver, chemists, they are the source for first responders to come to our region and provide us with the services. Yeah. No, that that makes sense. Yes. Thank you. >> There are several smaller airports throughout the county as well. I had a question. I wonder, did you collaborate with emergency first responders? I'm thinking of the fire districts. >> We do not. As part of this effort, we know that Corissa works with with them, but we do not. So our you know, it was from the cities. It was maintenance staff and it was public works staff. But we did not work with the firefighters and. >> Right. Well, they might have some good information because they're the ones that are traveling on these roads and the shape that they're on. I know that number two on your list here, the Rock Creek 152nd Lucia Falls Road. There's not a lot of people out there, but there is a whole lot of people that go out there to recreate. And I know em. North County EMS district. There was a particular bridge. I'm not quite sure what waterbody it was over that. If that went out, then it would really mean hours of additional travel. So I'd encourage you to reach out to them and see if they have some opinions. >> So, so as part of our efforts, like I say, we did not work with emergency responders, but as part of Metro's Boger effort, when we work with Metro to develop the regional emergency transportation routes and then later on develop the tiers, they extensively reach out to emergency personnel throughout the all five counties. So I know that they got input into developing prioritizing those networks. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Any other comments or questions? I don't see any. Okay. Thank you very much, Judith. Now we're on to other business. Anything from the board? Nothing from the board. How about the executive director? >> Okay. Directors. I have a few updates to listed here, and then I'll add a few to begin with, under the purple memo is Annual report for our Unified Planning work program. So I'll set the stage by saying with the up P that's developed and the figures are calculated based on a fiscal year, and it follows the state fiscal year beginning July 1st to then June 30th each year. Under our obligation to Wasch Dot and then Federal Highway Administration and FTA, we have to publish an annual report documenting what we completed the prior year as it relates to the activities slated to be completed as part of the work program, and also an expenditure summary within the report. You'll see just very detailed listing of those activities that were accomplished. Other activities that are in progress, and then how much we expended. There's also a comparison of what we predicted we would expend versus what we actually expended. I would just caution to say what we predicted to spend, and this is usually the case is inflated upwards. We program and generally estimate that we're going to spend much more than we do. And I think that's just a function of how RTC budgets, because the moneys that we have available just continue to roll forward. If they're not expended. So notable accomplishments identified in the memo that I'll just review for you. You heard one report just now about the resilience assessment plan. That was a major work element identified in the 26 up LUP. We completed the Gorge Safety Action plan, another major work element, and then the regional Active Transportation Plan, which you've heard about in prior reports. That was a major body of work. Others are just ongoing activities. You heard about the vast program, our Regional Traffic modeling and data program. I think we're making significant progress across the board, achieving the goals that we lay out in the work program. And so you see the details reported entertain any questions if anybody had any. Okay. The next activity is one of awareness and disclosure. So each year, RTC, in partnership with Identity Clark County, helps prepare a unified legislative policy statement as referred to as the Clark County Transportation Alliance. I am now in the process with identity Clark County of providing technical inputs for the publication of what would be the 2020 legislative statement. And just for reference, I'll hold it up so that people can see it. This is the 2026 Legislative Session statement, generally endorsed by dozens of agencies, including agencies in the state of Oregon. And this is serves a couple purposes. One, this becomes a big umbrella from which agencies can say, yes, this is a regional priority. So it never usurps what an agency is doing individually. And I know each of you has legislative priority statements that you should and do develop at your affected agencies. And so this is like the big umbrella, so that when I have conversations or when you have conversations with state or federal members of the legislature or Congress that you could say, and this is also not only my priority, but it's also an express regional priority. So it serves that purpose. Another purpose it serves is for all of us to sit around the table and to see collectively what a clear set of priorities are. So some of the priorities are projects, and there's a list of projects, as there has been in past years. There will be this year a list of priority projects. Generally a project or two from each agency within Clark County, and those typically fall into the category of large investments that may take multiple years or significant amount of funding to achieve, and something that you might be advocating for in Congress or at the state legislature. I would say probably mostly this is used with the state legislature, but certainly also with members of Congress. And and then in addition to project list, there are typically targeted priorities. They may be expressed as a policy idea, like we want more money for operations and maintenance writ large. You know, the legislature should commit more money for O&M. We see this summer with the amount of paving that Washed-out did, and local agencies have done the pavement management and driving on good flat pavement is valued by our community and it helps maintain the assets. And so you'll see statements like this is in years past, there's been generally an individual call out and discussion of the interstate bridge replacement program. That will continue to be this year because of just the significance, both in a bi state sense, but also in a national sense. And it really garners that level of attention that we continue to prioritize that that is a significant initiative here within Clark County. And so beyond my contributions, when I say my RTC contributions from the technical standpoint, identity, Clark County leads the outreach. And so they go out and collect the signatures and the endorsements. I suspect many of your agencies will have this in front of you soon for endorsement. Just a reminder, it's a big tent statement. There may be individual words or ideas here that you may not uniformly agree with, but is it the idea that we're pushing together as a region to accomplish the general goals? And again, I think sometimes people get caught up in a word choice here or there within the statement, but the idea is to have it be a bigger tent, espousing what we would all generally agree are the regional priorities. There's a government affairs roundtable. And so this is when it's debuted, it's in it's in sort of literal development today. And this week, next Tuesday. And most of your legislative government affairs staff attend this. But any any member of the board certainly could attend as well. It's debuted as part of the identity Clark County convened Governmental Affairs Roundtable. That meeting, scheduled for next Tuesday, October 13th at 1 p.m. And if you want a specific invitation to attend, I can send that to your honor. President of ITC can send it to you. So just wanted to make the board aware that it's in development. It's going to be debuted next week. The board will see a draft version of this in November endorsement. Typically in December. We usually endorse after other agencies have endorsed it. So in process, but I it's a good tool. And then the last thing I would say in terms of use, I use it when I receive a request for an endorsement letter to make comment at a public hearing within the legislative public hearing process, I might write a letter of endorsement advocating for a series of projects I typically Keip RTC's comments in a regional context. I generally don't advocate for a specific project, although a specific project, for example, like the Kamea Bridge, that's a very specific project. In years past, I've helped develop legislative language and a proposal for funding the cost estimate update. So I will get involved on behalf of RTC as long as it fits within the umbrella. And I think that's how I use it, just to guide my input, because I generally don't tell you every day that I'm up in the legislature or communicating. So if as long as it's under that big umbrella, I feel like I have the consent of this board to, to lean in the direction of getting these projects funded or support different ideas. Certainly any, any, any questions. But you'll see this in future meetings. >> Any questions at this time. >> And then I have a couple other comments. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> I saw Director Windsheimer had his hand up. >> I have a comment I'd like to make at the end, so please continue. Matt. >> Okay. Thank you. Just a couple of other updates in terms of activities, just to keep you apprized of where I might be out and about don't often do this, but I think this month there's been a lot of outward bound activity within the last two weeks. We've held a couple of tours of staff. I wanted to extend appreciation to the Port of Vancouver. They were very gracious in offering a customized tour to RTC staff of their port facilities. Two weeks ago, Commissioner Temple Lentz obviously helped arrange that and was part of it. CEO Juliana Marler also had the benefit of Jim Hager, one of the principal project managers and and soon to be director of engineering Greg Westrand. They were all on the the little shuttle bus together. We drove around and saw the port facilities. And I think candidly, having done that tour before, it was great to see that, to have access to those officials so that we could learn more about that facility and how important it is to Vancouver, the region, the state, the nation. Candidly, and I think it's a good timing also because we're about ready to kick off our freight study, phase two of this body of work, and that'll commence within the next month or two. I think next month we'll probably share or maybe transmit a scope of work in terms of that. And I think later this week or next week, we're convening the the advisory committee to get that body of work going. So far, it's important. And again, thank you to the Port of Vancouver for committing the time and resources. I said I would pay for gas, but I guess they're going to pick up. They're going to pick up the tab. Also, as staff, we drove around Clark County because we have some team members that maybe aren't familiar with all parts of Clark County, which took a little half day tour, see facilities, talk about projects, projects that we've completed and RTC's self-funded, but also projects that we need. I should mention that when we stopped in Ridgefield, we went all the way down to the downtown of the new port development area that they're planning and got out to, to see a viewpoint. And the mayor of Ridgefield happened to be walking by, and it's just sort of fun. We talked, said hi. He said, are you here for this event? And I said, no, it's a different event. We're on a we're on a tour. So, you know, I love getting out and seeing these people. And it was fun just to bump into the mayor of Ridgefield at on that morning. But we survived the weather and everybody survived my driving. So that was that was good. I mentioned this because we we're wanting to ground ourselves as a team and what's happening in the community. So if any, if any of you have a suggestion for tour hosting or learning a deeper dive into a project or initiative, we're open to that because I think it's important that we put boots on the ground. Also went out to Goldendale, ran into Director and Commissioner Ron Ihrig at a meeting. This is in relation to participating in some regional briefings within the last couple of months. And and there will be more in the future of the update to the Regional Economic Development Strategy within the gorge. This is the multi-state multi county economic development strategy that is being convened and coordinated by the Mid-columbia Economic Development District out of The Dalles. Coincidentally, we partner with Mchd through our Gorge TransLink Alliance, and they're an applicant under the consolidated Grant program, which you heard about earlier. So it's good to get out there. Goldendale is a beautiful community. We were at the Observatory. It's really a pretty cool place. We weren't there at night, but the facility itself was really nice and updated. And I mentioned that because I'm also involved in the regional economic development strategy update for the Portland metropolitan area through the Greater Portland, Inc. and I'm trying to figure out when to bring to the board some briefings on these two economic development strategies. And I know it's not mainstream to what we do, but I'm participating in the committee structures within those two plans. And I think it's important because the linkage between economic development, our future prosperity and transportation infrastructure is key. So if you want that briefing sooner than later, I'm happy to try to figure it out. But I'm always looking at the time, and we don't have a lot of time on the agenda. So I mentioned that just I wish there was an opportunity that I could figure out how to get this into the conversation here. I'll wrap up by saying, I received an email earlier today from I.B. our interim administrator, Carly Francis, with a few updates on I.B. I figured I'd pass them along to you. Earlier this year, the board program funds, which were federal funds committed to the IB program. I heard in this email today that some of those funds were obligated and committed by the Federal Highway Administration. I suspect the future tranches of those funds will be released as cash is needed. So that was good. The activity of the board and our Tip amendments this spring achieved the goal, which is to get the federal agencies to start to commit the the big grant monies that they had committed previously. So that was a good report. The second was they're out for a review of requesting consultants to propose to actually build the bridge. And I think earlier this week or no, it was late last week was the cutoff for the initial submittal of qualification statements. And we heard from interim administrator that they did have a response and that they're going to go into the next phase. So my assessment of that is somebody wants to build this bridge. They had a response to the statement. Advertisement. And so they'll go through their process of due diligence to try to figure out if that's the contractor they want to proceed with. But all to say the project is moving forward. So notable actual activity underway and as it relates to progress. So I'll conclude my report there and say the November meeting, because it's election Day, the plan is to have a shorter meeting. We'll try to keep the agenda. A lot of it, the reports that you saw tonight that are coming back in November will be placed on consent. If you have questions about the plans or the work products, please let us know beforehand. Or they can be pulled from consent. If you have questions. And the primary topic to discuss next month is because everybody is wrapping up or wrapped up or imminently wrapping up, or to be wrapped up their comprehensive planning process. We then start our update to the regional plan. We're updating the regional plans within each of the counties. Clark. Skamania. Klickitat. Next month is our initial briefing of the board on the work products leading up to a plan amendment adoption next March. Tomorrow, Adam is within Skamania and Klickitat counties at their TPC meetings, delivering them a report on the draft update. Ideas for the Skamania Klickitat RTP, so we'll try to keep it brief next month. Just given the the other events of that evening. But that's the look ahead for what we're seeing. Thank you. >> Great. Ryan, did you have something. >> I did thank you. I just wanted to let everyone know because I know it's been affecting any of your visits. Down to my neck of the woods, that the Rose quarter project has been progressing very well. We're we're feeling very confident that we will either meet or beat our opening deadline. And so I wanted you guys all to know that and. And just give you some encouragement that it's going to hopefully get done soon. And I also want to just offer a thank you to everyone who's changed their commuting habits and allowing people to work from home and other things that have really helped make this whole project manageable. So thank you. >> Great. Thank you for those comments. I'm glad things are proceeding as quickly as possible. Okay, so our next meeting will be November 3rd, and we've completed our agenda. Without objection. This meeting is adjourned