Good evening everyone, and welcome. Happy to see all of you here. If you would join me. Well, calling to order the Clark County Council October 1st, 2026. And if you will join me for the Pledge of Allegiance and continue standing for the invocation. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And tonight, we don't have someone to provide an official invocation, but I would just ask everyone to take a moment of silence, calm yourself, and reflect on our beautiful fall. Okay. Thank you very much. Let's start with the roll call. Councilor here. >> Councilor Belkot present Councilor Fuentes here. Councilor Little here and Chair Marshall here. >> Thank you. Okay. I would just ask if any councilors have disclosures to make. >> Yes, chair, I do. Thank you. As lovely as it is when we hear from our constituents once in a while, something goes a little goofy. And. And just for the future, consider sending emails to councilors individually as opposed to all of us collectively. Because once in a while we accidentally hit that Reply All button. And that did happen yesterday. And there is an email and I forwarded it to Rebecca to be posted to the record. It was an email discussing affordability and a potential amendment to the County Comprehensive Plan, and I just wanted to make that disclosure aware. There was one other councilor that also inadvertently replied all. And so just wanted to make sure that everybody was aware of that and that they can see it in the record. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Now, I will go ahead and open a public hearing. And there are a few things I'd like to say to begin with, just so everyone knows how it's all going to roll out. We will. We have a court reporter tonight, so we will be taking a break every couple of hours so that Cyndie can get a little rest or whenever she needs a rest, we'll give her a rest. And that will mean that everyone will need to state their names clearly, speak. At a reasonable pace and spell. Spell your name. The staff will start us out with a presentation. Each of the cities who are here will have an opportunity to provide five minutes worth of testimony, and then we'll open it up to the general public. And for the comments on the 2025 Comprehensive Plan, update the rest of the schedule. I anticipate we will complete public comment this evening. We'll close the public comment, and then the council will reconvene tomorrow at 10 a.m. to make our deliberations and vote on the various issues. If we don't complete, we on Friday, it will carry over on Monday. Okay, I think that's it. >> So and can I ask Council to amend the agenda and add an executive session after public comment? >> Okay. Executive session. >> I'm going to ask legal counsel to cite the RCW for the record. >> Apologies, chair. One moment. Amber Smith Chief civil deputy prosecuting attorney it is. Pardon me. I'll say that a little louder again. Amber Smith, chief civil deputy prosecuting attorney. And that is RCW4231 ten. Perrin's one, Perrin's little I for pending or potential litigation. >> Do we have an amount of time? >> We'll do ten minutes. >> We can be optimistic there. Okay. Okay. So now I'll turn it over to the county manager. >> Thank you. I just want to open up with a few remarks. Just as a reminder, the Washington Growth Management Act requires a full review of the Comprehensive Plan and Development Regulations every ten years. As council knows, this review is comprehensive, complex, and takes a great deal of time and expertise of county staff, key stakeholders and local partners. I will note, while the official update is ten years, it literally takes years to conduct all the necessary work to get us here tonight. Presenting the final information for Council for your thoughtful consideration. Community Planning Director Doctor Oliver Orjiako and Program Manager Jose Alvarez and all of the community planning staff have led this complex process with integrity, inclusivity and expertise, and I will note expertise that is recognized throughout the state. I personally want to thank them for their leadership, patience and tremendous work. As Oliver has kindly reminded me, the charter states that the County manager is responsible for presenting the Planning Commission comprehensive plans and recommendations to the County Council, and at this time, it's my pleasure to hand this over to my colleagues to lead us through this public hearing. Thank you. >> Thank you, Oliver. >> Good evening, Chair and councilors. Thank you very much, County Manager, for that remarks. Greatly appreciate it. And I know my staff are sitting in the back taking notes. And hopefully when council begin deliberation, they will all be available to assist us to answer your questions. So thank you. County Manager, Deputy County Manager, and Amber and all the legal counsel that have been helping us throughout this process. And counselors, this will be a joint presentation between myself and Mr. Jose Alvarez, who is our program manager in community planning, and I will start off indicating that what is before you for consideration is the recommendation of the Planning Commission. When we went to the Planning Commission, we did not make a recommendation to them. We provided them a decision table to guide them in their review and in their present, in their recommendation to you. So while we are going through our brief remarks, if I can call it that brief, what is before you is the recommendation of the Planning Commission to you and as the County Manager, opening remarks, she is also presenting the recommendation of the Planning Commission to you. So if we can go to the agenda for this evening, what will go through? Next slide please. And while I'm thanking my staff, I also want to thank. Councilor Staff, Rebecca and Crew for their assistance throughout this process. Every comment that they have received, they have forwarded it down to my shop and we have indexed them. I cannot thank our city partners and the public at large for this more than three year process. This is the agenda. I will quickly go over the provide you an overview and adoption process, speak briefly about the Community Framework Plan and county wide planning policies, then focus on highlights of the proposed changes, starting with the comprehensive plan text and Policies title 40, which is the Unified Development Code of the county. The changes we've proposed making in those in making in title 40. Then we talk briefly about our capital facilities plan. As you all know, when we do the land use or the county Council approved the preferred. That is what we use in preparing the Capital Facilities plan and working with outside agencies, whether it's PUD or Clark Regional wastewater or schools and county sheriff and others to help us. Update the capital Facilities plan and show how the county can pay for the services and the resources needed to. To support the land use plan. We have also a County capital facilities financial plan, and then we have the Arterial Atlas. I often joke that my advanced transportation planning staff. We put a line on the map. That is true, but that is how those roads are built. We then go into impact fees. The council have already reviewed the school and fire. So tonight you're going to be hearing the proposed traffic impact fee only. Then we'll talk briefly about the environmental impact statement. We are required to with integration of State Environmental Policy Act. With GMA, we are required to do environmental review of the land use and which the Council approved. And we hired a consultant to help us review the potential environmental impact, and we will touch upon that because it is part of the supporting document. And then we'll get into the actual recommendation of the Planning Commission. Next slide. Councilors. I often start and show this. Each time I come before you. These are the four major phases that we have engaged in throughout this process. As I indicated, this is not about checking the box. This is about identifying what needs to happen in each phase and how we are, how long that will take us to complete. The first thing that the county did was to approve the public participation plan and scope of work for this project. That was the first thing and is required by statute that we have to provide a public participation plan and a scope of work. Following that, the county, you will recall, took quite, quite considerable time, if I may, inviting folks from the state Office of Financial Management to appear before you in a series of work session after that which the Council then make a recommendation on the population to plan for. Again, following that, we engaged Scott Bailey when he was still with the State Employment Department to provide us the employment projection, correlating with the population number that the Council chose, which he did. And then we had a series of work session with you, and you approved the employment numbers to work. It has always been the county policy to get the county close to 1 to 1 ratio in terms of population and job numbers. You then reviewed the county wide planning policies and the county wide policies and population allocation to each of our local cities. You adopted those population and employment allocation, which was the basis of the series preparing their own plan and going through their own process. Then you get into the shaping of the plan, review and refinement, and then the adoption process, which is where we are now. I'm not going to go into all the check marks, but check areas, but this is not checking the box. You all have participated in this process and know that the material in our 2025. Meeting and information event, you have a very voluminous information. I commend you for reading them, and I will get into highlight of the major changes to our plan chapters, but we are now in the final adoption phase. So let's go to the next slide. Councilors. This is more of a reference, but it is important that I share this slide with you. This is the what I may call a schematic map. Is not that too detailed, but you can pick from it how the community 33 years ago came together and prepared a vision of how they would like the county to develop over a 50 year. This is what is known as the Community Framework Plan. It's a 50 year vision that was adopted in 1993. It reflects how the community would like to grow as the county continued to grow. It's a beautiful area to be in, and since then, what we have been doing is using the framework plan to then develop the 20 year growth plan consistent with the vision. I often joke that the next plan update will require revisiting the community Framework plan to engage the community to find out whether the 50 year vision developed almost 33 years ago, is still valid. As a check in, and two. If you look at this map, even though it's very schematic, the. Red area is where both high density and medium density areas will develop, followed by low density areas. And then you can see the light blue rural landscape, followed by forested area, and then our ag areas and open space in between. I can say that pretty much on the resource side, we have been following this vision and it is often readopted every time we go through the periodic update. So the council will be adopting this until the next plan update, where I'm suggesting that the community revisit that vision. Because when it was prepared in 1993, the county population was less than 300. I was about 250. Now we have exceeded almost 500 and double that population, if I may. So it's time to check in to see whether that vision is still valid, to continue developing and using it to develop our 20 year growth plan. Let me go to the next, and you can stop me at any time and ask me questions as I go through this. I said, as I said, this will be a joint presentation between myself and Jose. Let's go to the next slide is what is often referred to as county wide planning policies. The county wide planning policies is required when the Growth Management Act was passed in 1990 and codified in the Revised Code of Washington as 36.78, the section 210 of that law requires that counties and cities collaborate to develop countywide planning policies to govern the development of comprehensive plans and Washington Administrative code. 365-196-305, also ensures consistency between comprehensive plan of counties and the cities sharing a common border or related regional issues. We have come to you when we shared with you in a work session. The current county wide planning policies and there have been some amendments to the county wide planning policies, but they require the county and all the local jurisdictions working closely together to agree on that policy, because we, the county, have to adopt that county wide planning policy as well as our local jurisdictions. And since we started this process in early July of 2023, internal planning staff have been meeting with each of our local jurisdictions on a monthly basis, with other outside planning partners, our Clark Regional Wastewater C-TRAN. I don't think there was anyone represented from the school district, but of course we do have the school advisory group, so we do coordinate with representative of the school districts and the purpose of the county wide planning policy. I'm not going to go into each one of these. The county council can and the public can look that up. But it's really to facilitate transformation of local governance in the urban growth area, typically through annexation or incorporation of a city, so that urban governmental services are primarily provided by cities, and rural and regional services are provided by counties. You can see the other two bullets there. As I said earlier, since the countywide planning policy was first adopted in 94, it had been amended in all 4 in 2007 and in 2016. And through this process, we have recommended additional changes to the countywide planning policy. Next slide please. I will just provide you with highlight of new policies in our comprehensive plan text. When you begin your deliberation, each of the chapters are separate land use, economic development, climate, you name it. They're about 15 or 16 chapters or elements. I want to highlight the housing element, because you all are aware that the legislature have passed numerous housing bills. I won't name them all, but we knew that that is coming. And I commend the county manager and you, councilors, for giving us the opportunity or the foresight to develop the Housing Action Plan known as Hozack. We prepared that prior to the legislature passing all the housing bills, but that was very helpful to us, and I thank you again for the opportunity to fund the implementation of that plan, not completing it and putting it on a shelf. But thank you for giving us the opportunity to begin implementation of that. So the the passage of so many housing bills led us to that work. And we are continuing to do that work. You will recall that when you after the passage of that plan, you had a committee that put that plan together. You also. We also have a committee and a consultant, and I believe our consultant is online listening. Miss Elizabeth Decker, very intelligent, and we appreciate the work that she's been doing. That work led us to the first middle housing code work. I don't want to editorialize, but we know there was some opposition to that. But the council finally approved that. And I give I give the community that works on the committee that worked on that, and my staff that led the governor. To come down here and present our word. When we completed the middle housing portion of that code. Not only that, we also received an award. Due to your own support on updating the aging readiness plan. And I must say that I have been receiving calls from other counties, even outside the state, wanting to know how we put the aging readiness plan together and the universal design guideline that the group put together. So I've been referring other counties and other state planning agencies that call me that. They can go to our website and look it up. And we had a commission on aging established after that, again, to continue to implement that work for the housing. There's also another amendment relating to, I think it's House Bill 1181 or 81 is the climate element. But 1110, which was the Adu. Housing bill that require us to amend our accessory dwelling unit, not only Clark County. I believe other cities did the same thing. Now you can have up to two accessory dwelling unit on your lot, or you can convert your garage or basement into into accessory dwelling unit. We we we, we amended our code removing ownership provision and parking and other issues. So it is more flexible than the previous accessory dwelling unit code. As I mentioned, we updated our code with the help of our consultant and the implementation of the Hozack work to now allow a variety of housing type which wasn't allowed before in the single family zone. When that bill 1220 was passed, some folks thought that that was the end of building single family, a unit in the single family zone. I said, no, it's just now giving the local jurisdiction opportunity to allow a different housing type that wouldn't allow before. So that's what that bill provides. It's not unique to Clark County. Other cities are required to do the same. The major other change that we have to comply with, and this is not saying the state is asking us to do this, but it is unfortunately, it took quite a while for the legislature to finally pass a bill requiring adoption of a new climate element, which Clark County is required to do with, with emphasis on resilience and greenhouse gas reduction, environmental justice and best available science requirement. I also will commend the County Council for appointing a committee of different backgrounds that work on that and came to a consensus. That's what I talk often about process. There were no minority report, if I may say so, but you did receive letter from the group letting you know that they came together to approve the new climate element that is before you. We have gone to the Planning Commission. When I get to that and to you to share the work of that group, as you begin your deliberation, all this is open for you to make, amend or make some suggestion. And if you do, and if it passes, we will incorporate any changes that pass in any of this element to reflect your action. When you when we prepare the adopting ordinance, the other new area, if we can go to. The next slide is transportation. The amendment to the climate bill requires counties as well to create a new Ada transition plan for transportation, which we have done, and share that with you. It is part of the recommendation that come out of the Planning Commission, and also to adopt active transportation level of service standards and to strive to equitably implement the multi-modal transportation network in a way that is consistent with the same environmental justice. Next slide please. Councilors, as I mentioned earlier, other chapters that we updated, those were updated to be consistent with any new bill that the legislature passed that require us to update as part of our comprehensive periodic update. So we have done so. As I mentioned earlier, all the chapters we had a work session with the Planning commission. We didn't want to take all the documents to them at once. We, we, we took like 3 or 4 of the chapters at once to them so that they could manage absorbing what the changes are. And we did the same thing with the Council. So. And we posted all the chapters on all the new changes to, to our website so that the public will also have the opportunity to review that even though they don't have a comment during work session, but we provided it for them, for the public to review so that it is part of the public participation provision. The other changes we made were all just related to making sure that the policies were written in a manner that provides clarity, and every time you look at the chapters multiple times, you find errors. So we use this opportunity to continue to correct errors. And then we provided the chapters for additional public participation and opportunity to various advisory group, whether it's the BI compared, whether it's the Commission on Aging or the school, and then internal departments, we made that clear so that they can provide us any thoughts or comments. Let's go to the next slide, please. Counselors are as we are updating the the policies and strategies. They are also legislative changes that came out of some of the new bills that the legislature passed. So that led us to look at our title 40. For example, we amended the definition section in title 4100 .070. In the definition section, we added what is the definition of step housing? What is the definition of co-living? As an example, in our minimum and maximum calculation, we prioritize multifamily, allowing density measurements in that section of title 40. In our low density residential district, we did additional refinement and also further clarify what is allowed, what qualified as step housing and the same in our residential and office residential district, prioritizing multifamily and step housing and co-living the same in our commercial district. I think there's a provision that where we are allow hotels, for example, we have to allow step housing and co-living. The same is true in our mixed use district. We did the same thing. We adjust the allowances there to also provide for opportunity for co-living and step housing. We worked as a result of your moratorium on redevelopment of manufactured home parks. We listened or the county listened, and with the help of our consultant, we also propose manufactured home park overlay and the issue to address there was to is really focusing on protecting manufactured home parks because it is an area that, in terms of housing stock, need to be really looked at and to protect to the way that we can, that we believe can be defensible, if you will. We also further did some refinement in our compact lot development as a result of what the development community or those that are using the code are finding out, which is typically how code works. It's not written in stone. When issues come up, we address them or find a way to amend the code. The same is true in the multifamily amenity areas, improving the topic address. They're just improving the quality of multifamily amenity areas, landscaping and open space and, and so forth. The the legislature also recently passed a new bill requiring us to address parking and lodging standards. So 40.3, 40.1 .010 relates to those changes. And then we made some minor changes to the appendix F of highway 99 overlay district standards. The idea there was to also look at the feasibility of allowing middle housing and multifamily updates. There are other additional code amendments that was made in this, in this case, to the traffic impact fee section of our code. If you can go to the next slide. Yeah, I believe we share this with council. Again, we looked at the the traffic impact fee section of our code title. 4610 0020 focusing on definition, removing reference to the traffic impact fee technical document. And with that removal, we looked at other section of the code and provide some clarification what that would do with that removal, and then also provide clarify annual automatic adjustment to the impact fee rate following the construction index, at least for three years before we come to the council to review any if any adjustment can be made with input from the county and the community at large, we clarified and I think on, on, on the schedule, we clarify automatic adjustment to the impact fee rate and also clarify duration of impact, fee collection and when a project qualified for impact fee credit, all those changes have been made to that section. When we received a comment from various outside agencies, our internal staff did public work, did provide us comment, which I think we shared with council. When you get into your deliberation, we'll remind the council to make sure we include that change that public works provide to address possibly traffic accurately. Now that we are removing the the technical document related to the traffic impact fee, the next area I want to get into next slide is our capital facilities plan. This is where we can be able to show us how we are going to pay, at least in the first six years, to support the plan that we are moving forward. So in the case of the capital facilities overlay, the idea is to is is to review how our proposed plan is supported by our capital Facilities plan. And the key factors to be must be balanced. Our land use priorities, our public facilities to support them, and then our financial capacity under our CW3670A0703. And then we are required to review with our service providers, their their own capital facilities plan, be it coordination with C-TRAN, parks, water, sewer, stormwater, school, law enforcement and I indicated fire and also in review of the land use plan, particularly the preferred alternative. They all indicated that there is. They have adequate capacity for the 20 year planning horizon. In the case of growth related to transportation costs, I think we have shared with Council what GMA requires, particularly in transportation improvement, necessary to implement the growth. The 20 year growth plan. We. In reviewing the preferred alternative, I believe we came to the Council and said we are. We showed you our six year plans 2026 through 2031. Some of those plans have already been adopted, but they are short term transportation needs, which we use the 20 year from the 20 year list to develop our six year. And have the council approved that. In the case of Tip, you have to approve that before the budget. You adopt the budget, which you're going to see later this year. In terms of the long term transportation needs, the work that our consultants help us review. The preferred plan shows that there is a shortfall in the neighborhood of 555 million, shortfall to fund the necessary transportation improvements. We came to the council sharing that information with you, and, I believe, outlined strategies to mitigate how the county is going to close that gap. It is not something that you required now, after the adoption of the plan, as I shared with you, and I think our public works director and crew agrees with that, the council can direct that public works and planning begin to look at those options on how to close the gap. And next slide please. This is the Capital Facilities Financial Plan. This plan is prepared primarily by the county. As I indicated before, it covers transportation, parks and open space, stormwater drainage and water quality, and then county building and other facilities in the case of county building and other facilities, this is where the jail and any remodeling and work with the court will fall under this county building and other facilities. But in transportation, open space, stormwater, you can see the expenditures and the earmarked sources of appropriate revenue sources, and then the revenue coming from new development. I believe you were talking about stormwater last time. There is no fee. So, you know, access for stormwater review. That is why the development community will develop that. And over time, dedicate or ask the county to take over the stormwater facilities and make it a public maintenance issue going forward. That is what is represented on this slide. The next slide deals with the Arterial Atlas amendment. This is the roadway that supports the land use. In terms of transportation. We have updated it to also look at any circulation plan that the council have adopted for example, the high not the 179 circulation plan. We have amended the arterial at last to include any adopted circulation plan. We've also overhauled the document and with the help of GIS, we've identified so many Scrivener errors that we need to fix. What does that mean? Reule that have already been completed that is still showing on the arterial atlas, or where the arterial or the line on the map doesn't really follow where it's supposed to be. So there are so many others that we are going to be identifying post plan adoption, and hopefully by next month or so, begin that work when we start the annual review and docket process. The next section I want to quickly run through is the traffic traffic impact fees. Counselors, you have seen this with the work of our consultant. We looked at the projects. In the second column is the current traffic impact fee. And this is per average daily trips. And this is the proposed rate. So this is this proposed rate is what you're going to be voting on and hearing from the public when they testify. We have shared that with the Planning Commission. And it's part of their recommendation to you to approve the traffic impact fee, as are the work of our consultant. And my staff shows the the next slide focuses on the environmental review. As I indicated, we did hire a consultant. It is something that my staff and I can do, but if we write it, we'll. Will it be acceptable? You will say staff driven or staff written. But we did hire a consultant to help us that do this type of work. They worked on the draft EIS, which was published, and we provided not 30 days, but 60 days for the public to review that comment or review that document. Excuse me, and, you know, provide comment. And then all those comment were we provide provided a response both the county and the consultant when the final EIS was done. And I would submit to the council that we have met the requirement as a as it relates to this comp plan update, I've taken too much time because they just as I said earlier, there is too much documents that we have put on your lap, but now I will turn it over to Jose Alvarez. If you have questions for me, I will wait. Before we go into the actual Planning Commission recommendations to you. >> Are there questions from the council? Okay. Did you have something to add, Jose? >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes, oh yes. >> A few slides that you may be familiar with. Okay. Again, good afternoon Council. Jose Alvarez with program manager for Community Planning. I'm just going to give you a highlight of review of the Planning Commission recommendations that we discussed September 16th at our work session, the Planning Commission held their hearing August 20th and they deliberated September 3rd. And these are the recommendations that they provided. Go to the next slide. The first set of we're going to be the maps that. These next 4 or 5 slides are the UGA expansion areas that were being considered with the. With two exceptions, the recommendation from the Planning Commission were consistent with what was in the preferred alternative that you recommended going forward to be studied in the EIS in the battleground UGA, there were two areas that the Planning Commission recommended be added, and those are highlighted in the green text box. And those numbers are can be found in the line item numbers for the the decision table. And so number 26 is a 35 acre increase or expansion. And that's I believe, utilities for the city of city of battleground owns that property. And it's the arrow to the south there. And then to the west is three properties totaling 17 acres that were added for residential. And that's on the north side of the battleground. UGA. Next slide. The chemist urban growth area. Again, they're proposing to expand for the airport. And then at 161 acre property, the Nevin property, for. >> The distinction between. >> And so they included the 162 acre expansion for the Nevin property. >> Quick, quick question. >> Yes. Go ahead. >> These maps are these. Just to clarify, are these the recommendation from the Planning Commission, or is this what the cities have requested. >> These are recommendations from the Planning Commission. >> Okay. Thank you. Councilor councilor Young Shari Cyndie. >> Yedda Cyndie, if I may, councilor young, it's safe to say, yeah. These are recommendations of the Planning Commission. It's also what the city's proposed. I know that you made recommendation on the final when the Planning Commission on the preferred when the Planning Commission made that recommendation to you, you made some changes. For example, in the case of battleground in the preferred. The only parcels that were in the preferred. If we can go back to battleground. Are the piece to the West, which is marching towards the Dulles Kaliner and the piece to the north, totaling 488 acres, the Planning Commission recommended that the Meadow Glade piece to the south, where we marked SE. Be included in your recommendation. When you adopted the preferred, you excluded it. In the case of commerce, you can go back to commerce. This is just more of a clarification. Go back to go back to commerce. In the case of commerce, the previous recommendation to the planning from the Planning Commission did not include the neighboring property. Council recommended that it be included in the final alternative. That was studied. And we shared with council that when this was looked at in all three, it was looked at. As for housing, the city came back and asked whether this could be looked at in for employment and we said it was too late to do so. So that's the clarification. The initial recommendation from the Planning Commission did not include the neighboring property. Just a clarification, but it is in the final as a as a recommendation to include it in the final alternative that was studied by council. So I've stopped and Jose continue. >> We have a question. >> I'll try to make this quick. And on 27 back at battleground Matt Little, Councilor Matt Little, battleground number 27. There's three parcels there. I saw it in battlegrounds letter in their request but it wasn't identified which parcel was the one that was not in the DEIS, which I believe is 226988000. And I'm just wondering which one of the three that is because it's. >> Yeah. Let's go back to. >> And maybe we'll learn that when the city's present. >> We can show you that quickly councilor. >> Gotta go back. >> If we can go back to battleground. >> Right. >> And bring it down. >> So it's the parcel just south of the arrow on the north side. >> The well, there's three contiguous parcels. >> Yeah, it's the smaller one. >> Smaller one to the. >> South abutting the UGA. There are. Okay, so this is parcel square the sideways T and then the one underneath is the one that was not studied in the UGA. >> You're pointing to number 26. I'm talking about 27. >> 2017 acres. >> No. 26. Well, the 27 is those three that comprise the 17 acres. Number 26 is the one to the south. That's the 35 acres that the City of Battleground owns. >> I understand 26 is where the city owned parcel is with the water resources. I'm just asking about 27 there on the east there that you're pointing to right now. >> This one? No. Yes. >> Down up up, up where the arrow is. >> Where the arrow is. >> Up where the red arrow is right there. 27 right. It's it's three different parcels. I'm just trying to figure out which is the one that was not analyzed in the D. >> There was just one parcel. The one parcel is 35 acres. >> All right. The way it's described in the city letter, it looks like three. So maybe that's a question for the city. But thank you. >> They'll clarify it. >> Okay. Okay. >> Next slide. Okay. And so the center again, they had an additional recommendation. And that is a roughly five acre parcel that is between the expansion areas to the north and the UGA. And it's the white parcel that's highlighted in red. And that's the one that's owned by the Clark Public Utilities. We did contact CPU, and they didn't have any concerns with being included. I think that was a question that came up at the work session. And then the those two areas were expansion areas that were included in the preferred. And the Planning Commission recommended approval of those. And the additional parcel that was not studied in the phase. Next slide. The Ridgefield expansion area. Again, there are two properties. The mall property to the south and then the expansion area to the north. And these were again in the preferred alternative. And the Planning Commission recommended including both of those areas. And these are. Zoned AG 20 as well. Just so just for the record. Next slide. The Yacolt urban growth area was an expansion of 12 acres due to the parcel to the west to the east. That was current. That is currently in the UGA as industrial and is looking to be converted to parklands. And the Planning Commission recommended including that as well. Next slide. So this is a summary of the proposed amendments within the Vancouver UGA. We're looking at changing some of the densities within the multi-family zones to try to address some of the housing requirements that the state. Through their housing analysis and planning tool and the need to plan for and provide housing at all income levels. We needed to upzone some of our urban, medium and urban high density residential districts, and to increase the supply of that land. And then we looked at certain properties to rezone from our 110 and our 122 R 175. And then there were some site specific requests that were included in the land use table. I think the Planning commission recommended all but one, but I'll have the next slide. We'll have the summary of that. So the Planning Commission denied the motion to amend zoning in Urban medium and her urban high residential districts, where we were looking at consolidating from five districts to three in the mapping. They make that recommendation. Ultimately, they decided to approve these those same changes in our zoning. Zoning districts. So there was a conflict between those two. This was related to the second bullet, which was the the Planning Commission wanted the council to consider the recommendations as it pertains to some of the proposed changes. Related to the code changes that were being proposed for the multifamily zones. Third bullet there was the denial of a recommendation on one of the site specific requests to go from commercial to medium density residential. We can discuss that more in detail when we get to deliberations, but there's some access issues along 503. That is why the proposal is being made and was originally supported by the Planning Commission and Council and the preferred. But the Planning Commission. Made a recommendation to deny that motion. They also included three policy amendments in the Housing element. The first two are county wide planning policies 2.19 and 2.1.11, and those are included in the in the table. And then the fourth bullet again is minor change to include language archeological. In one of the the policy sections. And then the next bullet in the climate element was new information that a new policy to develop regulations in conjunction with PUD for grid scale batteries. And then finally the manufactured home park in our code was proposed to be updated to clarify that the park that include park models and tiny homes approved by labor and industries, and then also to in include consideration of the college cottage development requirements instead of a separate set of development standards. And I think we discussed those at the work session on the 16th. Next slide. Just One more thing. The. As Oliver mentioned earlier, we did get some feedback from the Department of Commerce. Washington State Department of Transit, the Regional Transportation Council, and our own Public works staff. Subsequent to the Planning Commission hearing. And so we have provided the Council with our responses to those and what amendments were made. To the chapters and the code. And we've shared that with you and made that public. That's all we have. If you have any questions. >> Okay. And the next two pages are school and fire impact fees, which we've already approved. So just for the public's information. Okay. Thank you very much. You've it took a little while, but it's taken very many years to get to this point. So thank you very much for that summary. Are there any immediate questions? I just remind the Council that we'll have plenty of opportunity tomorrow to ask lots of questions of our planning staff. So any questions before we hear from the city's chair? Yes. >> Go ahead. >> I don't have any questions, but I just wanted to make the council, as well as the public know that for the past few days have been having troubles with my back, so I may just leave. And there's no disrespect to anybody that might be making a comment at that time. I'm just in the back doing acrobatics, trying to stretch it. >> So okay. >> I'm doing okay so far, but I may need to. >> Well, and if you need to stand up at any point or. >> Do some jumping, jumping. >> Jacks, a few jumping jacks would would be fine. Okay, thanks for that comment. Okay. Oh, yes. Oliver, counselor. >> Nothing from me anymore. We're just going to step out in case cities want to sit here. So we're going to go to the back. Thank you. >> Thank you. And how many cities are here. Are all the cities here we have like, are you one or are you two different cities, two cities. Okay. Oh, and Richfield back there. So for Vancouver, okay. All right. >> Councilor Caroline online. >> Okay. Well, I think we'll go alphabetical. And each of the cities have five minutes. And to the council you you may have questions, but I'm hoping that we can try to move this as quickly as possible so the public can have a chance to speak as well. So go ahead and state your name for the record. And so your battleground. >> Yes. Thank you, County Council, can you hear me? Okay. My name is Sam Crumlich. Last name is spelled CRUMMETT. I'm the planning supervisor. Speaking on behalf of the City of Battleground. First of all, thank you for all the work that you've put into this, as well as the Planning Commission. And the staff has been a great partner and collaborator through all the work involved. In my comments, I want to summarize, first of all, our our big ask. I want to also just paint a brief story on how we got here, and then summarize some of the amendments we've requested. Our ask is that you would support the Clark County Planning Commission September 3rd recommendation. That includes approving decision making items number one, two, and three regarding our urban growth boundary, as well as the amendments 26 and 27 that I'll talk on briefly in terms of how we got to our recommendation for our preferred growth alternative, which is primarily a 450 acre expansion out to dollars corner for employment use. This would be zoned Westside employment. And then along State Route 503 would be zoned commercial. This actually started 25 years ago. Battleground had a 50 year vision, and one of the guiding principles in that vision was future growth should occur primarily to the west and south, and will occur in all directions consistent with the city vision. So that laid a framework similar to the county's 50 year vision in 2015. During our last periodic review, the city proposed a modest 82 acre expansion out towards Dollars corner that was appealed and the Growth Management Hearings Board had some concerns with our density calculations and found that we had a excessive amount of residential while we were expanding for employment. But rather than pursuing that, we would withdrew that request and focused on the next periodic review update, which is where we're at today. In 2018, we did a city wide strategic action plan and community vision. And out of that came several planning studies. The major one was the Land Use Master Plan update in 2021. That is where we did our capacity analysis as well as our, quote, reasonable measures exercise under the Growth Management Act, which is specifically our CW3678215. What that means, what that means is before you can do an urban growth boundary expansion, the state says you essentially need to see if you can grow within your existing limits or do some zoning changes before you go out. We've done that. It's all documented. Specifically, what battleground did was we changed some of our mixed use districts because those weren't performing for what we needed. We reverted back to industrial or medium to high residential. And after that exercise, we still found that we were lacking to accommodate jobs. A key data point was we had only 80 acres of vacant industrial land to develop, falling way short of where we need to accommodate our mandate from the state for jobs. So that's kind of the backstory to where we're at today. And I believe all of that is in the record in terms of the specific questions about our amendments, the, the the question that came up from council member little, the specific parcel that was left out of the DEIS in in the study was on the corner of Dublin Road and two 49th Street, parcel number 226988. That was added primarily if we were able to complete that half street road improvement with development, it made sense for that parcel to come in. What I would recommend and what we've already done is we're doing an independent CPA for our comprehensive plan, and we're including that parcel. So I think that would function as an amendment to your own Stapper process. Thank you for your thank you for this opportunity. I'm available for any questions or during deliberations. I will try to answer any. You may have that come up. >> Great. Thank you. So you'll be here tomorrow? >> I will be online likely. >> Okay, great. Thanks for that background. Are there any immediate questions? >> Chair? Sorry, sorry for this question, but I think there must be a mislabel in what the staff just presented and what's in your letter. So I just want to make sure that the 26 is the 26 that you're talking about. And we're talking about the 26 on the map that was presented by staff is the. Is the addition on the north side, the 27 is on the east side. But on page 11 of your letter, it shows that number 27 is the one on the north side. So it's opposite of what is being presented. And I wouldn't want us to vote on the wrong thing, in the right order, in the wrong order. So which one is correct? >> Okay. >> And which one has the water resources. >> The water. >> On the east or north. >> The city water towers reservoirs are on the east side. That's the 35 acre parcel. And I show that attached. Yeah, I show that as item number 26 in your decision making packet. And in our letter I also show that as 26. >> So okay, I think the arrows are just deceiving in what was presented because it looks like 26 is the north one. But just for clarification, here at the 2027, is the one on the north? Yes. And then the parcel that is not in the D e is the (222) 698-8000. Is that the smallest of the three parcels in the south east corner? >> Yes, that is the smallest. >> Okay. And the reason I was asking about that is you can't actually make a decision on something if it wasn't in the DEISI believe. And I'm not a lawyer. But that's the problem with that small addition. But you said you added it to try to make the the purpose of it was a road connection. And you can't do it without that parcel. >> The. And there's some photographs in the record. In that letter. The primary purpose was there. We have a half street city road that has been developed under city standards, and if those properties to the north were brought in, there's a development that would be ready to go under our city standards. That third parcel is right on the intersection, and I don't I've reached out to them, but I don't know their status of whether they want to develop or not. But it would make sense to bring that in in order to potentially fix that intersection, since it would be close to that development opportunity. >> Can you complete that project without that parcel? >> It could it very well could. Yeah. The other two parcels could develop if they were brought into the city. >> All right. Thank you for your time. >> You're welcome. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Moving on to Camus here online, I believe. >> Good evening, Chair and council members. My name is Alan Peters. PETERS. I'm community development director with the City of Camus. Firstly, on behalf of Mayor Hogan and Kansas City Council, I want to take a moment to thank you all the Planning Commission and your staff for the tremendous amount of work they've put into this periodic update. Waldo County and its cities have gone through periodic updates before. There really has never been a periodic update quite like this one. And and I personally want to thank Jose and Oliver for all the work they put into this project and all the guidance they provided to me and the other cities as we've navigated this process with all the new many state planning requirements that have been thrown at us even in the past three years. >> Can. Excuse me, can he? I'm having a hard time hearing him. He's kind of staticky on my end. >> Okay. Thanks, Cindy. I don't know what we can do to improve that. He's participating online. >> Maybe here or on your end. Council or. >> The council can hear you. >> Okay. >> Maybe just speaking slowly might help. >> I will, I will do my best. >> Thanks. >> So the City of Kamea supports the Planning Commission's recommendation. And as you consider final adoption, we respectfully ask that you retain its recommendation to include both Grow field and the Evinn property within the Kamea Yedda campus. We've been allocated a 2045 population of over 37000 people, and we need to provide capacity for over 4200 housing units and over 1000 jobs. We want to be clear, we're not relying primarily on outward expansion to accommodate that growth. We're making substantial changes within the city and our UGA by increasing residential densities, allowing more middle housing and accessory dwelling units, expanding multifamily capacity, and then creating new mixed use and mixed employment zones, as well. As we've developed a downtown sub area plan that's going to allow some redevelopment there. But even with those changes, the remaining developable land within campus is increasingly constrained. And the proposed expansions of Grow Field and the Nevin property are targeted responses to those specific circumstances. Grow field off Pluckhahn first, this is approximately 84 acres. It's a publicly owned operating airport owned by the Port of Camas, Washougal. It already contains runways, hangars, fueling facilities, flight school and other employment related activity that we think exhibits, we think, exhibits characteristics much more consistent with an urban public facility and employment use than with rural lands. Importantly, campus has intentionally limited that proposal to the port owned airport property, and we reviewed Grow Field as a distinct circumstance based on its public ownership and existing use, not as the beginning of a broader expansion. Nevin presents a different opportunity. Its 161 acres contiguous with our UGA near existing and planned urban development. It's near downtown campus, and if it's included, it could provide capacity for more than 1200 multifamily housing units. We understand the recommendation to include that as multifamily, and we would accept that. We find that the property should no longer be designated agricultural resource lands, and that it's already characterized by urban growth. The area consists of 17 parcels, five acres or less in size that could currently be developed into low density, sprawling rural residences. And we don't believe that that would promote productive agriculture. The county's AG land study indicates that due to soil type, the majority of this property is not prime farmland or farmland of statewide significance. And again, the property is adjacent to our UGA and an area that's been rapidly growing and has resulted in an extension of utilities and other public facilities, such as campus high school. While the property in the past has been used for minimally productive ag activities, such activities such as limited paying are not really commercially feasible, sustainable and the property is not well suited for long term, long term commercial significance. So I do want to take a moment to state our support. Also for the development of a TDR program. We believe the property in particular would be a good candidate for such a program, and would commit not to annex that property if included in the county's UGA in the city's UGA until the county establishes the TDR program. So with these two expansions, together with the other changes we're making in the campus, UGA, I think, provide a balanced approach to meeting our long term housing and employment obligations. And again, thank you for your partnership, and we support the Planning Commission's recommendation. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Then let's move on to the center. >> Good evening. I'm Angie Merrill. I'm with the city of LA center. Last name is spelled MERRILL. I am the city planner. I want to thank the county council and the staff for all their hard work with the comprehensive plan. I'd also like to thank you for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the city of LA center. As you consider the adoption of the comprehensive Plan, I'd like to focus on the center's economic future and how we can grow while protecting the things that are important to Clark County. The center has some unique challenges when it comes to growth. Much of the land surrounding our community is constrained by steep slopes, wetlands, habitats, and environmentally sensitive areas. It limits where we can realistically grow. That's why the areas that we have requested along the I-5, near the interchange and the casino are so important. This is where transportation and infrastructure can support future commercial and industrial development, while allowing us to protect the small town character of our downtown and community. There is a history behind the areas being considered for future growth. Since 2007, these properties have been identified as urban reserve areas for future expansion of the center for employment. The city, county and others have made significant investments in roads, utilities and development around the I-5 interchange. These areas are next to tribal trust lands that are expected to be developed as and as development occurs, the areas will become increasingly urban in character and more traffic, noise and other activities that are not compatible with long term agricultural use. For the center. This is more about. This is more than adding land. It's about creating family wage jobs, building a strong local economy so our residents have the opportunity to work in their own community. At the same time, the center strongly supports protecting productive agricultural land. We believe in a transfer developments, right? We believe a transfer developments right program can help accomplish both goals. A TDR program can give farmers the opportunity to receive value for their development rights, while keeping productive farmland and agricultural use. It can also help cities accommodate growth in places where infrastructure already exists and growth makes sense. The center is committed to working with the county and the other cities on a county wide TDR program. The center agrees that we will not annex any of the properties into our city until a TDR program is in place. I'm. I have also submitted an exhibit with my testimony that provides additional information about the D designation. Areas in the center and the LA center. Udy expansion findings in response to county wide planning policy. 1.1.24, which calls out for implementation. Implementation of a county wide transfer of Development rights program being beginning in 2027. David Toyer will be sharing the findings on the behalf of the city of LA center. The center respectfully asks the Council to support the growth areas identified in our community and to continue and to continue working with the city of LA center and the other cities to establish a strong countywide TDR program that benefits all communities. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. I don't see any immediate questions. Let's move on to Ridgefield. >> Good evening, Madam Chair. Members of the county Council. For the record, my name is Steve Stewart, STUART, and I am the Ridgefield City Manager. First, as many have already stated. Thank you for this opportunity to speak. Thank you for all of your work during this process and that of your staff. And we know how much goes into that and we appreciate it. We are asking this evening to support the Planning Commission's recommendation and the preferred alternative that was studied in the final EIS before we got into the final EIS and any need for expansion. The first question that we asked is, what is the vision as a city in Ridgefield? That vision starts with maintaining the integrity of our existing neighborhoods, while focusing density in areas that can support it, areas that have the infrastructure, the services and the amenities. That work has already occurred. In 2021, the city started adopting ordinances and guidelines to be able to increase densities. To do that in a way that was still respectful of the unique character of our small town that work in and of itself now and in the future is not enough to meet the capacity requirements that we have been given by the county and by the state for both affordable housing and for jobs. To do that, we need to look at targeted expansions, targeted meaning strategic. The city has been strategic in identifying areas that already meet the characteristics of urban growth and offer potential for good paying jobs and for affordable housing. Those areas are consistent with the Discovery Corridor concept that began in 1999, a concept that has 12 miles contiguous and adjacent to I-5, going from WSU Vancouver to LA center, providing good paying jobs for all of North Clark County. That strategy is actually very much aligned with the legal requirements that are necessary. When we are looking at an expansionary that is characterized by agricultural zoning, there are three questions we have to ask is if an area, even though it is characterized by urban growth, is zoned AG, then you answer three questions. First one is it characterized by urban growth? The North Industrial urban reserve area. That is an expansion area. We are recommending. That area has been characterized by urban growth in and of itself, with an urban reserve designation since 1997. That designation is identified as the next area to become urban for job expansion. Beyond that, it is surrounded on the south, west and east by the Ridgefield UGA and to the north by the Cowlitz Tribal Reservation. Beyond that, it actually. Beyond that, going to the South. Forgive me. The mall property, which is the other expansion request that we are bringing forward, is completely surrounded by the cities UGA, and as such is characterized by urban growth. The second question that we have to answer is, does that land by its own geographic makeup, satisfy the requirements as AG? Again, the North Industrial Urban Reserve properties are surrounded on three sides by the city's UGA and to the north by the Cowlitz Tribal Reservation and the mall properties are 100% surrounded by urban development. And then the third question is, are those properties of long term commercial significance for agriculture, for the mall property, again, completely surrounded by urban growth, it is not farmed or enrolled in the current use tax assessment program. It's too small of an isolated area to itself, sustain productive ag activities, and the property is adjacent to available public services, including water and sewer. The North Industrial Urban Reserve properties are in an urban reserve. Overlay. The overlay necessitates adjacent communities planning for eventual extension of public utilities. The properties are surrounded by existing urban development, and they are adjacent to urban services. Based on all of those factors, we would ask that you support the Planning Commission's recommendation and the preferred alternative, and beyond that, we see an opportunity and the opportunity to actually preserve commercially significant agricultural land elsewhere in our county as it is important for our future. A TDR program that has already been spoken to is an opportunity to do just that. The City of Ridgefield has been committed to that, remains committed to that, and submitted a letter of intent such that the city would not annex any properties brought into the city's urban growth boundary until or unless a county wide TDR program has been developed to preserve farming activities now and into the future. Again, thank you very much for the opportunity to speak to you and all of your work, and I'm happy to answer any questions. >> Thank you very much, chair. I see a question. >> I do have a question. And since TDR was brought up and that's my motion, and I heard the same thing from three different cities here about this offer to not annex until a TDR program is in place. Does that mean that you would not annex any lands that were potentially de-designated until a TDR program is in place, or a TDR transaction on those acres has been transacted? >> The intent of the City of Ridgefield has been. And is that a transaction shall have occurred before annexation is appropriate. >> Wow. I mean that I don't know how that seems kind of unprecedented. What is your reasoning behind. >> So the basis of it is the opportunity that we haven't had in Clark County before. We've tried to establish TDR programs in the past, and for lack of sending sites and receiving sites, it has never occurred. So the opportunity to actually find sending and receiving sites that are appropriate and that are willing because these are private transactions that have to occur to make this happen, is something that's unique. And our city council has seen the benefits of that. They know the benefits because of the heritage that we have as a community and the path we want to see moving forward. >> Okay. I think if there's follow up questions, we we in our deliberations, we can follow up. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. That leads us to Yacolt. Is there anyone from Yacolt? Yacolt online? O Washougal is online. I'm just going alphabetically here that if there's no Yacolt, let's go to Vancouver. >> Good afternoon, Chair Marshall. Councilors. My name is Eric Paulsen, councilor for the City of Vancouver. It's spelled ERIKPAULSEN. I'm here to comment on a few remaining issues for consideration. As you approach the final adoption of the county Comprehensive Plan. First, thank you to you and your staff for all of the extensive and excellent work you have done for the last three years regarding housing density. The county's materials for this hearing indicate that there is more than enough buildable land to accommodate the chosen growth forecasts. There are countywide surpluses of land for all types of housing, and the biggest surpluses are for housing at the 80% Ami and above, not below the county. Numbers also show that most buildable land is zoned residential. Residential land is zoned for lower and not higher densities. The City of Vancouver has two requests specific to the Vancouver UGA. First, please add small amounts of commercial or employment zoning to parts of the Vouga that need it, where in many cases, residents today are forced to drive over a mile to the nearest shopping or work opportunities. This is inconsistent with the County Comprehensive Plan policy as well as a. Requirements. We've provided a list of potential sites to begin to address this problem. Items 18 and 23 in your decision table are large scale residential upzone proposals in the Vouga, which could accommodate modest commercial components. We've also identified many other potential sites in earlier testimony. As far back as 2024. We would appreciate a council response in the upcoming deliberations if zoning can't be added to any of these now, we urge you to direct that issue to be addressed in 2027. Work plans second, we request that you not significantly roll back proposed housing minimum densities before the new plan has had a chance to work, particularly when doing so would be based on incomplete information. A recent DEA letter raises important considerations about market feasibility, but it appears to be based on skewed and incomplete data and proposes to scale back minimum density in all vouga, multifamily and mixed use zones by a full 30 to 40% from what's proposed, among other detailed changes. We are not against examining the issue, but please do so after the comprehensive plan has been adopted. This would allow time to get complete data, properly study the proposal and its impacts, and importantly, let the market react to the new plan in the meantime, allowing you to make potential future adjustments based on actual market conditions rather than mere speculation. This is particularly important in cases where pending infrastructure may improve development viability, such as the highway 99 Bus rapid Transit. The Purple Line, scheduled to open next year. If the council feels it must make changes now, we recommend limiting the reduction to a move from 40 units per acre to 35 units per acre, allowing density to be calculated in a way that favors more bedrooms as requested, and leaving it at that. Regarding TDRs, we appreciate Councilor Little's leadership on this issue and look forward to upcoming discussions, but oppose using legally binding countywide planning policies for what should essentially be work plan instructions to county staff. Lastly, we ask that you indicate how you wish to address the major issues raised by the Department of Commerce so that all parties can respond accordingly. Do you envision changing growth assumptions or allocations to address the land surpluses you are currently reporting? If so, how do you envision using new interpretations of the Agricultural Land designation criteria to allow proposed expansions? If so, what are the implications for other designation requests now and in the future? What are the impacts on infrastructure provisions in the Vouga and elsewhere? If the county is again found to be non-compliant and becomes ineligible for grants as had as it has in the past, we appreciate that these issues are complex, but they have regional implications and deserve an open discussion prior to comp plan adoption. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you very much. Go ahead. >> So I have an email yesterday that was sending your the City of Vancouver comments, but I don't have any attachment on that email. So can you make sure that at least I and probably the remainder of the council get that attachment? >> We'll make sure you get it. Councilor young, thank you for the comment. Yeah thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. That brings us to Washougal. >> Good afternoon, chair Council members. My name is Mitch Keip. It's spelled KNEIPP. And I have the pleasure of serving as the Community Development Director for the City of Washougal. First, like my earlier city representatives, I must thank you and your staff for all the hard work to get us here. So close to the end. I will be brief in my comments, and I'll start with an update on Washougal work as part of the 2025 2045 Comprehensive Plan Periodic update, which we refer to as onward Washougal. Washougal is planning for a 2045 population of 24,874, an increase of approximately 6700 residents. To accommodate that growth, our plan provides capacity for 3735 additional housing units and just over 2000 additional jobs, and Washougal is accommodating it's allocated growth within its existing urban growth area and is not requesting an expansion of its boundaries. Washougal s update also incorporates the significant changes in state law that have occurred since the last periodic update. This includes planning for housing affordable to all economic segments, allowing middle housing within residential areas, accommodating up to two accessory dwelling units per lot, and incorporating the new climate planning requirements. The city has worked closely with county staff throughout this process to ensure our land capacity, assumptions and planning framework are coordinated with the countywide planning policies and regional growth allocations. I'd also like to speak to the proposed new countywide planning policy policy regarding a transfer of Development rights program, beginning in 2027 that was submitted by Councilor Little, which we received last Monday. Washougal is not opposed to a TDR. Our concern is just about adopting a new, very specific countywide planning policy at this late stage of the periodic update, with little public input, however, we are more than happy to and welcome the opportunity to further discuss a TDR program. Lastly, I wanted to specifically request that you approve the City of Washougal preferred alternative plan that was reviewed under the eyes which studied our proposed changes within our UGA. I cannot find a specific Planning Commission recommendation in today's packet to the Council noting their approval of our plan, and if I've missed that, I apologize. It may be in there somewhere, but because we aren't expanding our urban growth boundaries or making any changes in that regard, I wanted to make sure that we were covered in the recommendation that you approve. With that, I thank you again for the opportunity to comment and for the county's continued coordination with Washougal throughout this periodic update. I'm available for any questions you may have. >> Great. Thank you very much, Mitch. I don't see Washougal on my list of actions as well, so thanks for including that. I think Washougal is in the non controversial category here, but Oliver is stepping up to address that. >> Councilor sir this is Oliver again. Mitch, if we omit that we will make sure that we update the decision table, because I know that the Planning Commission recommended what the city of Washougal submitted. So we want to reflect that. I know you're not expanding the urban growth boundary. So they did agree with that. But we will update the table to reflect that. >> Great. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> Okay. There are no other cities. So that will get us to. Yes. Please go ahead. >> If I may. Just for formality, call woodland. If there is no one recommended. Yes. There for woodland. Yeah that's fine. At least they were called. >> Is there anyone from woodland? We have a little bit of woodland. And. And are they included in any of the planning recommendations. >> Because actually no. But they have been participating with us. But they are not expanding into Clark County. So there was no change to that Horseshoe Lake area. >> Great. Thank you. Well, thanks to woodland for participating with us. Okay. All right. So just to give everybody an update, we're going to move into general public comment. Right now we have 80 people who have signed up in the room, although we may have lost a few. And there are approximately 45 people online. So I would just ask the council if there are any parameters that you'd like to place on public comment in terms of limiting time, less than three minutes, or just going to a particular hour this evening, are there any suggestions? >> For two minutes? >> Someone should make a suggestion. >> Two minutes? >> Yeah, I think we I could support limiting public comment to two minutes. >> Yeah. And I would prefer that rather than just cutting off a time of day when some people just can't present at all. >> Councilor young. >> I don't like shortening people's time, but I also think that we might lose a lot of folks if we go too late and not hear from them at all. So I think two minutes is a reasonable compromise. >> Okay. It looks like that's the majority of the council to go two minutes and we have 20 minutes before it'll be time for our court reporter to take a break. So let's just jump in and. And I would just if people are if someone has already said something that you agree with, you can just agree with that. And that that would help us out quite a bit. Thank you. >> Thank you. So I will be calling the first person. I will also be calling the next person. So you have yourself prepared so that we can just keep the flow going as soon as possible. Please don't forget to state your first and last name with spelling your last name for our court reporter who is online, and speak clearly as possible. Peter Fells is up first, followed by Tyler Castle. >> There you go. Good afternoon. My name is Peter Fells, spelled F, like Frank ELS. I live in Clark County. I have two children and two grandchildren, and I'm very concerned for how our changing climate will affect their lives in Clark County. We've seen a lot of effects of climate change. If these. You could look out these windows today, you would see two large trees on the Clark County Courthouse grounds that are dying because of. At least in part because of extended heat. The United Nations Environmental Program just issued a report called Limiting Overshoot, and international scientists warned that the world is going to overshoot the goal of stopping global warming at 1.5°C. They said we'll have to work extremely hard for years to bring the temperatures down. In the meantime, we'll see increasingly disastrous events. This new report raises the urgency for us to reduce emissions. By the way, probably everybody else is in the same situation. I prepared a three minute talk, so it's going to be difficult for everybody. So I'm going to urge you to do everything you can to bring the county's emissions down. First, I think the county should try to match Vancouver's greenhouse gas emission reduction goals. Together, we can work on ways to achieve those reductions. Energy conservation is the most cost effective place to start. I also urge you to refrain from designating agricultural lands, and if you do d designate subject to development of a TDR program, I think you need to allow the public time to participate in that, in the development of that, and don't do it as part of this plan. Right now, limiting expansion will reduce the danger of fires in the wildland urban interface, such as what happened in Spokane. Thank you. Thank you for your attention. >> Again, Tyler Cassel, followed by Wendy Cleveland. >> Tyler Castle, CASTLE, Clark County Executive Horse Council. I out of respect, I did not invite hundreds of friends, but I speak for thousands of horse business and horse owners in Clark County. This regard to title 440260040. 20 years ago the county decided to put horse sporting facilities in the same genre as dog boarding facilities, which basically takes them out of the agricultural side of business permitting. In Clark County, not another single business agricultural business in Clark County is required to get a separate Clark County business permit only horse facilities, and that line is drawn at six horses and one person in the public showing up. In the 20 years that this has been around, there have been hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of code violations and code done. But according to a public information request just a couple of months ago, not one single horse business has been able to navigate or complete any kind of permit for the county, which this is great. What that tells us is that if the county then this has been kicked down the curb by other council and staff for a long time, you remove that code and that permit. That is only that. It shouldn't be to any other ag ag businesses. And you're not going to upset anybody because no one's no one's gone through the process. Despite their best efforts. This the horse horse horses in Clark County are one of the oldest, most prolific AG, one of the biggest community supporters. There are more nonprofit horse nonprofits in the county. Our surveys show $100 million plus of impact to the county. It is your number one agricultural tourism activity in the entire county. I would bet that. So there's just a lot of really great things. And so this checks the agricultural box, checks the economic box. It checks the community box checks all these things. And this again, this is something that's been on the list for a very long time. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Wendy Cleveland. Okay, we're going to move on to Dustin, followed by Theresa Hardy. Dusty I apologize. >> It's dusty Arab a RAB. I live in district one. I'm an urban farmer, a parent, and a small business owner. And I'm actually here because I would like to talk to you about fiscal responsibility on September 3rd. Planning Commissioner LaDuke, excuse me. LaDuke Montgomery, an attorney who specializes in civil rights and government cases, laid out the legal precedent outlining exactly how and why the county will get sued for failing to comply with state law if preferred. Alternative two is approved, as is. Planning and legal staff have been raising the same compliance concerns. And now the Department of Commerce has chimed in with concerns as well. And we've been here before, haven't we? So ten years ago, the county tried to do this, was challenged and lost, costing us nearly $10 million in grant funding. That's why I'm confused by council members here who are currently campaigning on fiscal responsibility. Given that the county is running at a structural deficit, isn't setting yourself up for a lawsuit, that your lawyers in the room are telling you that you're going to lose the opposite of that. How can you say that? You're focused on cutting waste when you're walking head first into it? When so many families in Clark County are food insecure and struggling to afford housing, I'm struggling to understand the decision making process behind this kind of pointless waste. I ask the council to seriously review and consider Commissioner Montgomery's comments and policy amendments. I also ask that you consider your responsibility to be good stewards of our financial resources. Any vote for an expansion of the urban growth boundary is a vote to set taxpayer money on fire in a county that can't afford it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Teresa Hardy. John Vander Beer following Teresa Hardy. >> Teresa Hardy in a recent email discussion with a constituent Councilor Young, you continued to ignore the fact that your intent to expand U, G, A, S, and D designate land is illegal. Your staff, legal counsel. The findings of the Agricultural land study that you all ordered and now the Washington Department of Commerce have made it very clear that your actions. Councilor young Belkot and little. If you continue in the direction you're headed, will be in clear violation of the Growth Management Act. The ultimate result of your action will be a deep and unforgivable betrayal of our constituents and our children's future. You have every opportunity to learn that this is the outcome that will happen if you vote to expand UGAS tomorrow to the benefit of developers over the people who have spoken loudly and clearly that they want you to protect ag land and develop responsibly, and that you do not want and they do not want you to break the law, which will lead us back into noncompliance, jeopardize us, and delay urgently needed policy implementation across the board. Leaving the UGAS where they are is the moderate position. Given the historical vast UGA expansions that have occurred in our county and the theft of agricultural land in Ridgefield due to a legal loophole, the urbanization, which is now being propped up, is an excuse to destroy even more ag land next to it. We now have so much land within our ugb that we do not need to expand to accommodate population growth. That is clear. And you know, that's how the growth management boards will see it. You need to listen to your constituents. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> John Vanderberg, again, as a reminder, please state your first name. Spell your last name for the record, followed by Robert Nevin. >> Hello, my name is John Vanderberg, that's VANDERBURGH. Good afternoon, members, and thank you for having us. I'm here to represent the Clark Community Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee, also known as Bpac. We appreciate this opportunity to comment on the transportation element and the Transportation Capital Facility Plan of the county's 20 year update to the Comprehensive Growth Management Plan, a subcommittee of Bpac has been working all year with your transportation planners to provide guidance regarding the newly mandated active transportation element of the Comp plan. Our recommendations are included in the proposed Comp Plan update. Bpac has submitted for the record a letter of support for these policy proposals. In the Comp Plan. Most significantly, we support the proposed strategy of multimodal levels of service as a means to create a safer, active transportation network. A safer network will equate to more use of multimodal level of service strategies. Goes hand in hand with our proposal for an updated Bicycle facility typology menu to provide better guidance on bike and pedestrian facility design. We urge this council to prioritize investment in active transportation infrastructure by modifying the selection criteria for capital projects to bring more funding to active transportation infrastructure. Bpac will help you see the wisdom of making these changes. Finally, we believe the most cost effective means of evaluating where we are today would be to invest in the future, and this can be done by updating our 2010 bicycle plan. Thanks for your time. >> Thank you. >> Robert Nevin. Followed by Nelson Holmberg. >> Yes, I'm Robert Nevin NEVIN and I live in Camas. And good evening and thank you for all your hard work. Anyway, this is in regards to the city of Camas Urban Growth preferred alternative property area five the Nevin extension. The question is is this property likely to remain in agriculture? If it isn't in in becomes a ugb. We need to be realistic. These parcels are already divided predominantly in five acre parcels. This land has never been a viable agricultural operation. There's no water rights. The soil type evaluation by your own study states that the majority property is deemed as a as not primary cultural land, not land of statewide significance. We have had the property had in the past for revenue going to the taxes. Agricultural zoning has been. Zoning has been maintained to keep the property taxes low. Otherwise we would have to sell the property. Keeping the property outside the Ugb does not guarantee farmland preservation. It could simply lead to less coordinated development and fewer opportunities for Camas to plan for the future. The question should not be whether we prefer farmland to housing should be whether we want this particular land to be developed through coordinated urban planning or through piecemeal rural residential construction. Those are two very different outcomes with thoughtful planning, allowing the city campus to develop a vision for the area that will bring about smart growth, growth, increasing the tax base to the county and the city of Camas and the schools. I ask you to consider what is realistically likely to happen to this land, and to stand with the city of Camas and adopt the preferred alternative. Which outcome best serves the county and the city of Camas for the generations to come? Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Nelson Holmberg, followed by Jim Byrne. >> Good evening, Council members. I am Nelson Holmberg, HOLMBERG. Speaking on behalf or speaking on behalf of the Building Industry Association of Clark County, BIA supports a comprehensive plan built on accurate, defensible land capacity analysis. Our concern is whether the factors in the final capacity analysis are adequately supported by Clark County's actual development experience and local market conditions. Right now, those assumptions are 10% for vacant residential land, 30% for underutilized residential land, and 0% for commercial, business park and industrial land. If underutilized land is overcounted the UGA expansions that you are deciding may be based on inflated capacity. Commerce's own guidance recommends a recognizes that developable land can sit undeveloped because of market forces. Owner preference, cost, stability, quality, location and that local circumstances may be considered. So our question is simple what evidence shows these percentages accurately predict what will actually develop over the next 20 years? We ask council to direct staff to complete a documented market factor, sensitivity and validation analysis before relying on these assumptions in the final capacity. Determination. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Jim Byrne, followed by Patty Reynolds. >> Good evening. I am Jim Byrne. BYRNE. Thank you for this opportunity to comment. On Monday, September 14th, your council had a priorities workshop. I was happy to hear councilors, Little and Young both expressed the desire that their long range goals were that their grandchildren could experience Clark County as it is today. I also share that hope and now remind them of those words. I believe if the current preferred alternative is accepted, that vision will not be possible. I have five requests for you. One do not expand the current UGA's. There is more than enough existing land to accommodate projected county and city's growth. An alternative with no growth area expansion is the only responsible choice. Two do not designate existing ag lands. State law says you cannot legally do so. So has the new Lee created Agricultural Advisory Committee three on priorities. De Councilor Fuentes made a compelling argument to accept Vancouver's climate goals as your own. I think this makes great sense. Please do so. Four resolve the concurrency issue. The GMA states development should not proceed until infrastructure is in place. Currently, there is a $540 million road deficit with current transportation plan. Five the deficit in parklands need to be addressed. Finally, your ex, legal counsel Chris Cook and the Department of Commerce both advise you that accepting the current preferred alternative is likely to be litigated. Litigating the preferred alternative in its current form will financially encumber the county as current legal staff of minimum experience, and the county will have to rely on expensive outside counsel. Taxpayers will hold accountable those who voted to put them in frivolous. >> Thanks. Thanks very much. >> Patty Reynolds. And then I believe we'll be ready for a break. Chair. >> My name is Patty Reynolds. PATTI Reynolds the regular way. You have to decide on the comprehensive growth plan. And you must balance the rural lands with timber, wildlife, rivers and streams, and valuable agriculture for the tables of our community. With existing urban developments and their presumed need for more housing opportunities, employment opportunities, schools and parks, you must hear those who have clearly explained the need for affordable and accessible housing the unhoused, those who are financially incapable of meeting the exhaustive requirements to rent an apartment while paying for childcare, utilities, transportation, food and clothing, and those with physical limitations that require structural designs that are potentially not financially beneficial to the builders. You also need to grow the opportunities for our county's farmers and ranchers to maintain a substantive amount of food for local citizens, restaurants and food banks. Agricultural land with its rich soil, must not be discarded as easily as you are doing to our wetlands. D designating agriculturally zoned lands to cover them with roofing tiles and asphalt will do nothing to help us stabilize and improve our climate. More cars on the roads that are or soon will be undrivable due to damage and ever worsening traffic, will do nothing to protect the ever shrinking >> Aquifer. Your chosen plan must protect our access to water for consumption of human. For. For food and for fire protection. You stand as representatives for those here who strive to be better stewards for our forests, ag lands, wildlife, our children and our grandchildren. Be on how best to move forward toward a safer and cleaner environment. A well balanced and livable county, and an example for a better future. >> Thank you. Oh, it's 6:00. Cyndie. How long a break would you like? >> No more than ten minutes. Ten minutes. I just need to get up and stretch. >> Okay. We'll take a ten minute recess. So we'll be back at 610. >> This webinar is being recorded and summarized. >> Okay. Okay, everyone. We're live. If you could take your seats. We're continue the public hearing. Okay. Hello? Hey. Okay. Thank you. Let's continue. >> Thank you. Up next is Brandy Kol, followed by Deanna Caton. Again, please remember to state your first and last name. Spelling your last name. Thank you. >> Hi. My name is Brandy. >> Please push the button. >> Push button. Okay. >> Hi. Can you hear me? My name is Brandy Cole. Last name spelled COLE. I am speaking to you today as part of a coalition of 61 individuals and 17 organizations, including I, Urban Teen, WSU, Vancouver Environmental Science Club, Southwest Washington Equity Coalition, fourth Plane Forward, Southwest Washington, LULAC, Vancouver, Metro, LULAC, Vietnamese Community of Clark County, Hispanic disability support, southwest Washington. Pacific Islander Community Association of Washington. Southwest Washington. Victory Food Project, Western Institute for Agricultural and Food Security Foundation, Columbia Riverkeeper, Vancouver Audubon Society, Sierra Club, Lewis Group, Sihel, Vancouver Alliance for Community Engagement, and Green Party, Southwest Washington. Our coalition strongly urges you to adopt greenhouse gas emission reduction targets aligned with the City of Vancouver's targets, and to do a draft supplemental EIS that creates a viable alternative through appropriate upzoning that limits urban growth, boundary expansion and protects agricultural resource lands. Again, I am asking you to thoughtfully consider not only these requests, but who is being represented in this coalition. I will again echo the note I sent you from Timotei Futurewise. Because the county has adequate capacity in the gas and the supplemental ask is for more affordable housing. I do not think the county needs to delay the adoption of the comp plan. They can adopt the plan, do the supplemental and then do up zoning afterward. So Futurewise is certainly not asking for any delays and neither are we. I kindly request that if the Council plans to complete an EIS, that they are very clear about that during this hearing. Having reassurance in plain language will be appreciated by all. Your decision in this moment will impact generations to come. Let's act together as responsible stewards of our community and this land to protect them for future generations. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Deanna Geyten. Okay. Followed by Matthew Barnett. >> Hello, my name is Diana Geyten. A last name is KATAN. I'm a district two resident. Some of you know me from the Charter Review Commission process, where I've spent a lot of time talking about fiscal responsibility and sometimes fiscal irresponsibility. That has kept me from following the comp plan as closely, as closely as I'd like. But I have watched the council meeting for years and binged the work sessions. This decision matters to me because, along with my husband's insistence on you pick fruit. We're an inspiring horse family. My kids are in lessons and shows and wanted equine therapy as part of her occupational therapy programs like IEA, Saddle Clubs and Four-h teach kids animal care, empathy and work ethic. All of that depends on ag land staying available. I'd also ask the council to update title 40 so equestrian facilities are classified as agriculture. Boarding and caring for horses is farming. I'm concerned that the direction of the council is leaning, will feed urban sprawl and hurt this county financially. I was frustrated when the comp plan was delayed last year, but okay, it was delayed to complete an ag study. That study found nearly all of our ag land is viable, and the county appears to be leaning towards desegregation D designation anyway, a decision that would further endanger grant funding, a plan that doesn't hold up under state law, invites legal challenges and taxpayers pay to defend every one. We can designate ag land in the future, but we can't get it back. I urge you to choose the option that preserves our agricultural land and complies with state law. It protects our farms, our families, our budget, and our credibility. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Matthew Barnett, followed by Anna Rivera. >> Hello, Clark County Council. My name is Matthew Barnett. That's BARNETT. I'm here today to well, I've been a resident of Vancouver since 2020. Before that I. My hometown was Los Angeles. And I come to you today to kind of share a little bit of a cautionary tale. As you may know, if you've ever been to Los Angeles, the LA metro area is a complete failure of urban planning smog everywhere. And it's impossible to get around because the traffic is immense and public transit doesn't work very well because of the urban sprawl. And I bring that up because I see the current comprehensive plan from the county kind of moving in that direction. And that worries me a lot. As someone who used to live in an environment that was created by all the errors of city planning that came out of that. So I'm here today to ask the county to amend the plan with really three asks that I suggest number one would be to adopt the environmental standards of City of Vancouver and apply them to the entire county. Number two would be to limit the expansion of the urban growth boundary so that we continue to build denser rather than wider, and three would be to upzone the existing areas so that we can build out our urban infrastructure within, rather than expanding outward. Lastly, I'll just say that I'm in complete agreement with the. Legal concerns raised by previous commenters about the requirements from State of Washington. I think those are valid and need to be respected as well. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anna Rivera. Karen Everson, followed by Darlene Balhorn. Okay. We will continue. Eric Galatolo followed by Mike Etsy. I'm sure that's wrong and I apologize. >> Good evening councilors. My name is Eric. I'm here speaking today on behalf of the Development Engineering Advisory Board. DBH DBH has provided comments throughout this process. We do not want to reiterate what was previously submitted. It is in the record, but our overall message has been consistent. We need a balanced, comprehensive plan that accommodates growth while protecting the character and quality of life that makes Clark County a desirable place to live. And most importantly, we need a plan that actually works. DBH supports increasing housing capacity and density were appropriate, but density cannot be the only tool the plan relies heavily on. Redevelopment and increased density within the urban existing urban growth boundary. Very little additional build out build out building land is being added. Our first ask is to take a more balanced approach to accommodating growth. Use realistic density assumptions, provide targeted ugb expansions where appropriate, and maintain the supply of all housing types, including owner occupied housing. Our second ask is to take a similar, similarly balanced approach to agricultural land. Protect agricultural land that has real long term commercial viability. But recognize that not not all part, not every parcel currently designated AG remains viable for commercial agriculture. Some adjacent and surrounded by urban development interfere with logical development patterns. We should protect viable agriculture while allowing appropriate transition where conditions have fundamentally changed. The third, and probably most important, ask is to incorporate DB's recommendations into the multifamily code, as recommended by Planning Commission. D previously submitted detailed comments, justification, and specific code language. DB supports the proposed higher maximum density, but we remain concerned about the significant higher minimum densities. We reviewed actual projects that may have been that have been financed, permitted, and built in this market, and many would not meet the proposed minimums. A higher maximum creates opportunity. A minimum creates constraint and a mandate. If the mandate doesn't work economically, physically or within surrounding development, we don't necessarily get more housing. We make more projects feasible. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Mike. >> ETC. Yes. >> Could it be Esther? >> I'm sure it probably is followed by Nancy Alexander. >> My name is Mike Eisner. I live in the Heights at Pleasant Valley and serve on the board. I think that's in district four, but I'm not positive. >> Could you spell your last name? >> EYSTER. >> Thank you. >> I have two major concerns with the comprehensive plan, the process the county has used, and the substantive impacts of the preferred alternative on Pleasant Valley and surrounding neighborhoods. I only have time to address the first one. That is the process question. Critical information was posted only hours before this hearing. Key materials, maps, exhibits, etc. were released the morning before this final adoption hearing, and those were only released to the public after I made a specific request for them. That gave residents only hours to review hundreds of pages of complex technical planning documents, a plan that will change our neighborhood forever cannot be meaningfully reviewed in a matter of hours. Posting essential materials the day before a final vote is not meaningful. Notice it is not reasonable to reasonable public process, and it effectively prevents genuine public participation. I don't know the rules in Washington regarding requirements to provide public with advance notice. When an elected body is preparing to make a major decision, such as a 20 year plan, but I can't imagine that the county's process was in compliance with those rules. For these reasons, I ask that the county delay final decisions until at least two at least two weeks. After all relevant material has been posted and the public has had a genuine opportunity to review and comment on that material. For a plan that will change our neighborhood forever. Every elected member on the county council should insist on complying with this request. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Nancy Alexander, followed by James Dean Lucas. Hi, my. >> Name is. >> Nancy Alexander, NANCEE. Alexander. Like the great Uhl. I'm talking about the mobile home overlay. Clark County has approximately 2033 mobile home sites with approximately 55,060 people living in these sites. Of these, approximately 2200 or 45.5% of them are senior citizens and 600 are children. The average income for Clark County and I'm only working on unincorporated Clark County. This came from the 2020 census. The average income for Clark County is 1200, not $125,385. The average income for a family mobile home park is 38,000 to 44,000. The average income for senior mobile home parks is 24,000 to 30 to 31,000. This is very low income. The average mobile home site for an established resident in a park is 750 to $850. New move ins and corporate owned parks is 1050 to $1250. I live in Hazel Dell Estates, a 128 site park. If it was to close today, between 165 and 200 residents with be with would be without a home. The problem as a place to live in Clark County for very low income to extremely low income 21,000 to 44,000 is extremely limited today. As of 12:30 a.m. October 1st, I did a scrape. Oops. Oh. Well. Sorry. >> Thank you. >> But there's nothing for available low income. >> Thank you very much. >> James. >> Dean. Lucas. Don. Eggers. Followed by Laura Martin. >> Don Eggers, EGGERS. And I'm also speaking about the mobile home overlay. And I'm specifically speaking about the community that my husband and I just moved into, Hazel Dell Estates. I'm literally the youngest resident in the park. I'm an exception. My husband's 55 and I'm 51. I recently learned that 100 of my neighbors could become homeless if this overlay doesn't pass. There's not 100 places for my neighbors, my friends, my new family to live. I just beg you to pass this. I don't want to see my neighbors. I'm fortunate. I'm blessed in that I would be okay. But these ladies won't. There's nowhere for them to go. So I'm just imploring you. I'm going to give my time to the next person. But please, please pass this. I'm just begging. >> Thank you very much. >> Laura Martin, followed by Sharon Busha. >> Councilors. Thank you so much. My name is Laura Martin, MARTIN. The intent of Washington State's recent legislation is to improve housing stability for tenants. The explicitly stated that failure to act urgently would result in continued harm to residents, justifying the need for rent stabilization to preserve public peace, health and safety. However, the park can declare itself economically unviable without guidelines or mandate. It makes me wonder why a provision for the definition and calculation of this loophole was not put into the bill in the first place. How is it that community stabilization, how is that caring for your seniors in what was supposed to be our golden years? My dispute is not with the park. They are only using the loophole for all it's worth and have created housing stability and made it almost impossible for seniors to find their forever homes directly due to the avarice of the park owners. As to whether Hazel Dell mobile home community is economically unviable, I capitulate. I calculated the capitalization rate, estimating $750 average rent times 128 spaces times 12 months equals $1,152,000 of gross revenue. The purchase price was $12 million. The cap rate comes out to 9.6%, which exceeds the average rate for Clark of for Clark County of 7.2% by approximately $300,000 annually. This works out to almost $200 per month. Excess profit profit from each and every one of us each and every month. And now they want to sell us because that's not enough. Our homes are too old to be licensed and moved. We are. What are we to do without a permanent overlay? Where will we go and with what funding? Please, please codify this overlay and fulfill your stated intent. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Sharon Busha, followed by Don stinky. >> Good evening. My name is Sharon Busha, spelled BUCHER. I've lived in battleground Hawkinson area for more than 40 years. I remember it as a farm community back in the day. They ended school early so the kids could go out and pick strawberries. Now the kids would not stoop so low. Anyway, there are still large berry farms nearby featuring blueberries, raspberries, marionberries, raspberries, marionberries and strawberries. These berries are much tastier than the ones imported from California or Eastern Washington. Also, having local farms saves on air pollution and fossil fuels in the transportation costs to bring the fruits in the you pick options we have here allow lower income people to afford these healthier foods. Ample rain here in the spring saves the waning water supplies to the farms farther south. Climate change is drying and warming. Many of the traditional farms further south in California. We also have goats, hogs, horses and cattle providing goat cheese and the sought after, grass fed beef. I'm sure you've seen the bumper stickers. No farms, no food. Yes, it's kind of simplistic, but in fact, it's true. Replacing farms with big housing developments in our area will increase commutes, worsen traffic, air pollution, worsen global warming. Please do not de designate more agricultural lands. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Don Steinke, followed by Janet Hedgepath. >> Hello everyone. My name is Don Steinke. STEINKE. This is regarding the climate element. I was a member of your community advisory group on the climate element. I urge you to support their recommendations. We adjourned 18 months ago, but in the last two weeks, a new problem has come to light that will make it almost impossible to reduce tailpipe emissions right after the midterm elections next month. Congress plans to repeal automotive efficiency and emissions standards that have been in place for 15 years. They also plan to repeal the law that requires automakers to meet a modest quota of EV sales. Those standards have been in place for 15 years. Because of those standards, we have 50 Frito-Lay delivery trucks, all electric driving around our county, along with Amazon delivery trucks, all electric, and two of us. The last me and and the last speaker drove here in our Bolds. And those would not have been available without those laws. Unfortunately, our congressional representative indicates that she will vote yes to repeal those requirements. Consider amending the climate element to say that you will ask your lobbyist to support federal policies that reduce emissions and increase fuel efficiency. I urge you to ask your lobbyist to ask our representative to change her mind. Ask her to vote no on House Joint Resolution 202205211 and 214. It looks like I'm about run out of time, so I'll stop there. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Janet Hedgpeth followed by Hector Inessa. >> Good evening Council. >> My name is Janet Hedgpeth. HEDGEPATH. You're reaching the end of a long process. From the very beginning, when you chose a higher population number, it was apparent this body had a determined its course. Use the same old playbook as before. Expand the UGA and build more single family housing. Never mind that the excuse. More affordable housing never materialized. Never mind that the vacant buildable Lands model or the last minute AG report didn't. Didn't support an expanded UGA. Never mind that the Department of Commerce and the legislature had new requirements for housing in all income bands which. More single family housing would not meet. Never mind that the next 20 years will challenge us with the effects of climate change, which are all playbook does not address. You have made choices all along the way that ignored the spirit of the GMA. Now, with the recent letter from the Department of Commerce, you have a clear warning that your preferred alternative will also violate the letter of the GMA. However you want to spin it, the reality is that if you continue to insist upon this alternative, the county will be sued. We will lose state grants, and I and other taxpayers here will foot the bill money that should go to take care of failing roads and stormwater systems, and making the county more resilient for the future will go to trying to defend a poor, probably illegal decision. And who benefits. A handful of developers and a couple cities, not the citizens. You still have time to find the courage to choose an alternative that will meet the spirit and the letter of the GMA. An alternative that will point us all toward the future rather than Myers in the past. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Hector Enosa followed by Leanne Brehmer. >> Good afternoon. >> My name is Hector Hinojosa, spelled HINOJOSA. Thank you to the council for this opportunity to speak. Public comment. Thank you for the staff for all the hard work they've been doing. I only have a few choice comments. As the previous speakers noted that any lawsuit filed against the county will be paid by the taxpayer, period, not by the developers. Only in their capacity as citizens of this county. So we will bear the brunt of those lawsuits. So please consider that because the voters will next time. I would like to just read two items from the letter from the Department of Commerce. September 9th. Regarding the d d designation of resource lands. And I'll skip the first part as land capacity, UGA expansion and D designation of resource lands are inherently intertwined. We recommend reevaluating each of these together for consistency with Wanke. 265.190.4040 CW3670A et cetera. ET cetera. In addition. Sorry, I've lost my place. Oh, regarding TDRs. Please forgive me. I should have noted it. Transfer transfer development Rights TDR program. In our review, we found policy 1.1.24 potentially inconsistent with state statute. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. I'm sure you both all read it. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Leanne Bremer, followed by Walter Valenter. As a reminder, there is a basket that's out in the hallway. If you want to put your public comments in the basket. >> Good evening, chair, Council staff. My name is Lehan Bremer, BREMER. I'm representing two property interests this evening. One, the portion of the former Anderson Dairy Farm on 1/62 next to the city of Vancouver. And the second one is Mr. Gerald Jones, who owns property just northeast of the city of Vancouver. And both of these properties are zoned AG. And I'll just go through my remarks here. The only time to consider the designation of AG lands is during this process. This cannot happen during annual reviews because the county must take a holistic approach, and the county has an affirmative duty under the GMA to designate AG lands that don't meet the three part test that Mr. Stewart talked about. Because just because these are AG lands today, that doesn't mean it's a static and immutable condition of these properties. They must be considered in light of additional evidence that's brought to you in this process that shows that they don't meet the criteria. And the county had an ag study that dismissed eight out of 11 of the Wanke factors to determine if they have long term commercial significance. This is a clear error of law. At the April 28th hearing. Chair Marshall, you asked, is it required to consider all 14 criteria in designating or designating you ask legal. They said they'd get back to you. I don't know if they did, but the court courts have addressed that issue. They have answered that question. You do have to look at every single of those factors, those factors, to determine whether land is appropriate to remain in the agricultural designation. And just two days ago, the Court of Appeals Division two said the very same thing in the Thurston County Futurewise case, where they said the G, M A and its accompanying regulations require counties to consider the 11 nonexclusive factors so applied to these properties, they don't meet the definition of AG. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Walter Valenter, followed by Doug Colbury. >> Hello. Chair Marshall and commissioners or councilors. My name is Walter Valentina, VALENTA. I'm here to talk about staff recommendation number 20, which is the great piece of property across from Prairie High School. Two and a half years ago when this process started, the three property owners got together and decided to make a request for being zoned residential. This property has sat vacant for over ten years, and there's a real reason why Wasch dot significantly restricts the ability to get off the highway there. Additionally, they built a very nice transit stop with a pedestrian activated crosswalk, but you can't take your car and drive into it. You have to go through the local streets from back behind. So we've worked together, but these are three separate owners and they have separate opinions and their strong will. I'm I represent the largest property owner, but we've worked together to try to make a residential development here, something that could be built. There has been no controversy with this. We've worked with staff. It's never come up in a hearing. It's never come up in a work session. It was approved by planning commission the first time. And then out of the blue at this last time, Commissioner Barcus tries to deny it. Why? He said it was because we need more commercial zoning. Well, how come number 21 and number 22, which is the same thing, he didn't object to those. Well, we found out why the northern property, which is owned by an LLC that's owned by AUT Gator, has submitted a proposal that requires the zoning to retain the community commercial zoning. And so he was helping that development get approved. So it's just in pre app. It hasn't been approved. They don't know if they're going to get access onto highway 503. But the other two property owners were broadsided by this idea. >> So okay. >> Please help us. >> Thank you. Thank you very much, >> Doug Kol followed by Han Lee. >> Hi. >> My name is Doug Kohlberg, spelled KOLBERG. And this is also in reference to number 20. I'm the owner of that large property that Walter just described. And I, you know, back in 2024, made an a planning department decision to try to change to multifamily. My entire property. My property is currently has a split zone with some of the property zoned R 30 and the property along highway 503. And the bus stop is community commercial. I encourage you to rezone my entire property to R 36, which is a medium density multifamily zone allowing 36 units an acre. This will clean up the split zoning issue. And also this is the best use of all three properties. I have just learned that a pre app has been submitted by Mr. Gaither on the property adjacent mine for commercial development. I want to emphasize that if you do, if you elect to keep the old zoning, please remember I want to keep my existing split zoning. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Han Lee, followed by Tim. Bob. Nick. >> Good evening, Chair and councilors. My name is Han Lee. Last name is spelled LEE, and I'm with H. Lee associates. And tonight I'm representing Doug Kohlberg. And so, you know, we have this issue where they work very hard with staff. And, you know, staff can probably elaborate on the whole process. And, and with planning Commission. And we all thought we had our our 36 and last minute. We find out tonight that there there's a proposal to deny our. 36 on those three properties. And initially coming in, we thought maybe we can just ask for our 36 on our property. But the problem with that is, is that Clark County code requires cross circulation. And it's been known, you know, it's been there for decades. And so the first thing that's going to happen is that county staff is going to basically require all those three properties to try to get access on the least classified street, which is northeast 116th Street. And and so the issue becomes is that all three of these properties are tied together, where at the end of 1/16 Street, which means that everybody has to go through residential area. So if we're commercial, we're having the greatest impact along the entire length of 1/16. Until you take 1/22 to go north to 1/19. And the problem with that is, is that we're impacting the neighborhood in the greatest way. And so we encourage you to reconsider our 36 for all three properties. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Tim, Bob, Nick, followed by Steve Parker. >> Good evening County. Thank you for getting us to this point. My name is Tim Bob, spelled BOBRIK. I'm a real estate broker from battleground, and I'm here to support Planning Staff Commission recommendation number 24 R 36. Zoning for the properties across the street from Prairie High School. I've been working for the past 18 months with multiple developers who were interested in developing this, these this area for multifamily. Now, there's always been consistent interest from developers to acquire all three properties should the property become zoned residential rather than commercial. The only thing that discouraged interest and prevented progress was the uncertainty of the planning process and multiple delays with implementation date for comp plan. Now there was a scenario where developer was interested in all three properties. When the owners requested their properties to be zoned R 30, but that interest significantly declined when the county staff considered zoning those parcels of higher density, like R 45 or R 50. That higher density is very unattractive developers in today's market. Once the county staff understood the impact of Wasch dot access restrictions, and staff finally recommended final recommendation became R 36. Zoning. The developer's interest returned, but then the implementation date for the comp plan was delayed, caused the developer to lose confidence in the process and walk away. Now last minute, the one planning commissioner questioned the residential zoning. Real estate developers need certainty to make commitments. R 36 zoning is attractive. Developers. Please approve the staff recommendation for number 20 once the zoning is adopted and certain. I believe Clark County will be will get a very nice development on that land. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Steve. Purkey or Purkey. Followed by Leah with the same last name. >> The Purkey. >> Nope. >> Lehan. Followed by John Bauer. Yeah. Hey. >> My name is Carmen de Lehan. I go by mellow and I'm surprised I'm even here because we've lost half the crowd. And by the way, you were all ripped off one minute having to cut your speeches down to two minutes instead of three when we had time. Because this officially should have gone on till Monday. That said it would go on till Friday. If there were still people present, they would go on till Monday. And you see half the population is gone and didn't get to speak. So thanks, Mr. Fuentes, for cutting everybody's time anyhow. Oops, sorry. I want to talk about how the Oliver even stated that by transportation. You guys are down 500 million shortfall, and you want to put the county in debt for billions with light rail. Can you guys see the stupidity here that they don't care about y'all's money? Because it's not their blood, sweat and tears. It's yours. So hey, they're going to do whatever they want with that money. And as for the trees, and this is what sickens me the most out of the whole universe, trillions of planets. They found a planet made of water. They found a planet that rains diamonds, but they haven't found a planet out of billions with trees. Only the earth has trees of billions of planets. And you want to cut them. I have no respect for people who want to chop down forests and cut down trees that they have. They have studied those trees. They cry out in pain. When you chop them down and you think that's funny. 20, 30 years to grow old forest trees and you guys want to cut them down so some developer can make money. That's total disrespect for this earth and total disrespect for future generations that need the air that would have been produced. That, by the way, we already have places on earth that are air free. Dead air. You can't breathe. We need every tree out there. And think about what you're doing with the old people. You're going to sleep good tonight. Making them homeless, man. It's disgusting. Whatever. >> Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. >> John Bauer, followed by Linda Huddle. >> Okay. Hello, Council. I live in district two. I am. >> Asking your last name. >> Oh, sorry. John Bauer. BOWER. I live in district two. I am asking that you not expand any of the urban growth boundaries. Or d designate agricultural land protected by the Growth Management Act. We must prevent urban sprawl, not increase it. We must preserve agricultural land and not destroy it. As climate change ravages the world, we need a sustainable local food system to maintain community resiliency. So much agricultural land has been paved over in the last 50 years and 50 more years. Our children and grandchildren will curse us for every acre of food production we gave away to asphalt and concrete. The Department of Commerce and your own council agrees that this is a waste of money, and you will probably lose the legal battle if you continue on your current path. So councilors, young, Little and Belkot, please change your mind. You still have time. I lived here my entire life. I plan to spend the rest of my life here. So please consider Clark County's future. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Linda. Huddle followed by Heidi. Cody. >> Good evening. I'm Linda huddle. HUETTL. I live in Cascade Park. Manufactured home community and I'm the president of the Resident Association there. I have a concern regarding the manufactured zoning overlay plan. Use exception clause of Keesee 40.20 .120. I have strong feelings that a neglectful landlord or corporation could use this exception as a loophole to request zoning and redevelopment. If the intent is to adopt the comprehensive plan, with the use exception in place. I'm asking for addition of strong standards to protect tenants. These are. A landlord should present a relocation report and plan that includes relocation assistance for park tenants, relocation resources, referral to subsidized housing resources, compensation for loss of equity and actual moving parts costs, and no lot payments by tenants until they're able to relocate so they can qualify for new housing. And the landlord assumes responsibility for demolition and cleanup of the tenant unit. They also request a relocation coordinator, the Seattle Municipal Code and Salmon Washington Municipal Code have this relocation plan in place. I have resources for you that I can leave so you can look at that plan. I also am wondering about the possibility of leaving the moratorium in place, as that poses no development threat, and provides peace of mind for tenants, and still allows the landowner to sell the park as a manufactured home park. Thank you. >> Okay. Yes. Please leave that information for us. Okay. Thank you. >> As a reminder, there is a basket. As a reminder, there is a basket out on the table for public comment. Heidi Cody, followed by Claudette Derricotte. >> Good evening. My name is Heidi. Cody CODY. During this multi year process, I worked in coalition to advocate for equity and climate resilience in the County Comprehensive Plan. Together, up to 12 community based organizations, mostly of color, submitted seven coalition letters to County Council, two coalition letters to the Planning Commission and gave many in-person testimonies. Tonight I'm here speaking as myself. This five person county council is going to make a decision that will impact our community health, climate resiliency and food security, possibly forever. I ask you to listen to the community who lives here, who have been telling you what we want for well over a year. Please do not designate any farmlands and do not expand any urban growth boundaries for cities in Clark County. Please follow the law the Washington Department of Commerce told you in writing that designating ag lands is not justified. Please call for drafting a supplemental environmental Impact statement with appropriate zoning to accommodate affordable housing options. Please adopt Vancouver's greenhouse gas emissions goals. You don't need to know how you will meet the goals now, but you do need to be headed in the right direction. Finally, please stop wasting our taxpayer dollars. Clark County has already lost $10 million in grants because you've made us out of compliance with state law. If you continue to ignore commerce, you are making sure that we remain out of compliance. Thank you for your consideration, and I'd like to add that I agree with Janet Hedgpeth and Don Stinky's testimony tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Claudette Derrick, followed by Bobbie Derricotte. >> My name is Claudette Derricotte, DERRICOTTE, and I also live in Cascade Park Estates with my husband, who is a Vietnam veteran. And thank you very much, Linda, because that I ditto everything she said, and I'm here as a result of the comment form that we filled out when we came for the overlay for the manufactured home communities in Clark County. And basically we were asked, do we agree with the overlay? Yes. But is my comment, because I feel that there are so many equity investors, privately owned real estate developers and real estate property management firms that are buying our manufactured home parks. And then because of the amendment that was with Bill 1217, there's a. They can anybody that would come into our park that wants to buy one of our. Homes would have to could be gouged. And that's what they're doing now. So as far as the second question is, they asked us if these parks were rezoned because of this exemption, that they would be able to make them low income. And I, I have no confidence in the future that that that's going to happen unless you propose some stronger regulations as to what these landowners can say is an exemption to rezone the parks we have, because everybody is saying that commerce, you guys. The Elizabeth in her comment was that this is a a form of housing that we can have. And what we now need is funding and stronger laws to to preserve our parks. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Bobby. >> Bobby, Derek. Followed by Steve Morasch. >> My name is Bobby Dorokhov, spelled D as in David, ERRICOTTE. I don't usually talk or share, but because of what's happening, God told me to get up and share the truth. So I'm going to tell you the truth. Five questions I had to answer when I was 33 years young. I'm 85. Question number one who am I? I am a human being with feelings and an attitude. Question number two what is the meaning to my life? To live in faith, family, friendships, foes every day, eternally. Where am I going in this life? I know where I'm going in the next life, wherever God's Holy Spirit leads me and God's Holy Spirit led me right here. When will that happen? Number four, when I make an attitude adjustment. Most people got up this morning in a negative attitude. I don't care about the company. I don't care about the world. I don't care about anybody. I don't care about God. I don't care about me. I put on a positive attitude. I care about the whole world. And number five, why me? Because that is God's plan for me in this life. And God bless you and God bless America. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Steve Morasch, followed by Bob Carroll. >> Good evening for the record. Steve Morasch MORASCH with Lannen home. And I'm here tonight to talk about the Ridgefield at UGA, and I have two minutes, so I'll just make two quick points. First, I want to call your attention to the March 20th, 2025 City Council Preferred Land use map, which is in your record, and I'll leave this copy in the basket outside in this in this map, the city asked for three expansion areas the mall property, the Northern Industrial Reserve area and area 12, the Jones McPherson property. I'm not sure exactly how that Jones McPherson property got dropped off the list, but I'm here to ask you to reconsider and re add it to the list, because the City Council for City of Ridgefield asked for it to be included to meet their housing goals. And also for our second point in the record, January 12th, 2026, we submitted a letter and attached to that letter was a study by Johnson Economics analyzing the agricultural resource Land Analysis for determination of D designation. Both my letter and the Johnson Economics Report provide a factual and legal basis for designation of this 64 acres that addresses all of the Wanke factors. They're all discussed in my letter and all of the other factors and requirements for designation, which, under the Thurston County case that Miss Bremer cited earlier, is a requirement that all those factors be considered. So we would ask you to reconsider the decision on the Ridgefield UGA to fully grant the City Council's request by including all three of the properties, including the Jones, McPherson and D designate and bring it into the UGA. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Bob. Carol, followed by Gordon Matthews. >> Good evening. Thanks for the time to speak tonight. I'm Bob Carol, CARROLL. Affordable housing is an emergency. Families across our county are in crisis. Affordable means a total monthly housing >> Payment of no more than 30% of monthly income under SB 5587 and under the Department of Commerce statewide standards. Please add a commitment into the Comprehensive Plan for the County to set goals for affordable housing, track progress and adjust as needed using the aforementioned information provided under Bill 5587. So the data and analysis you need is already in that bill. Setting goals and tracking progress is the right way to solve the affordable housing crisis. Failing to do so indicates our county is not taking this crisis seriously, and I'm asking to bring it up for a vote. We want to see. The public wants to see what your attitude is on it. And then it then we can go from there. So thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Gordon Matthews. Isaiah Irish followed by Bridget Belarus. >> Good evening Council. My name is Isaiah Irish. IRISH. I am among the youngest members on the commission and I am sharing tonight's statement in a pair of overalls. Nearly a century old, in an attempt to represent the rich history and promising future of agriculture in our county. I will now begin our statement. The Clark County Agricultural Advisory Commission voted unanimously, unanimously at a duly scheduled meeting on September 23rd to make the following recommendations to the Clark County Council. One. Agriculture in Clark County is economically, historically and environmentally important to our community. Unfortunately, according to the USDA, the county has already seen a 38% reduction in total farm land from 2017 to 2022. The Agricultural Advisory Commission believes that protecting agricultural land during this comprehensive plan update is fiscally responsible choice, providing a perpetual economic return and contributing to long term food security. Two the county should amend the County Development Code to remove the option of cluster developments on agriculturally sown lands, as found in Keesee 4210 dot ten E and add an agricultural 40 Comprehensive Plan designation with an AG 40 zone three Agricultural Advisory Commission provide a comprehensive feedback on the Agricultural Land study. The Commission agrees with the core findings of the study, including the finding to not rely on nearby urbanization as a rationale for designating agricultural land for. The Commission strongly recommends creating programs that ensure affordable access to farmland, programs that help preserve farmland in perpetuity, and programs that designate additional agricultural lands. Five Clark County is endowed with world class agricultural soils that not only provide ongoing economic opportunities, but these lands also provide enduring esthetic beauty and dramatically enhance the quality of life in the county. Based on numerous and unique benefits of agricultural lands provide to the community, the Agricultural Advisory Commission strongly urges the County Council to not designate any AG lands in this update. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Bridget. Belarus. Martha. Mayer. Followed by Julia Anderson Putman. >> Good evening. My name is Martha Meyer. MAIER. >> I live in Hazel Dell and I'm an advocate for affordable housing, housing for all people. And I'm asking you to not increase the UGA UGA, but to promote more density in the land already designated for housing. I have an adult son with a disability who lives in a dense neighborhood. He's wedged between the Hazel Dell Target shopping center and the freeway. Which means you means you always hear the hum of the freeway. He has a pocket sized yard and no nearby parks, plus limited parking. And yet it's perfect for him. The noise and lack of green space doesn't bother him, and he doesn't own a car. What he does have is a walkable neighborhood. He can walk to his job, to public transit, and to shops and restaurants. Most importantly, his townhome is affordable for him with his limited income and assets. His special needs trust owns a home, which means he will have someplace to live. After my husband and I are no longer able to take care of him, there is no excuse for homelessness in a country as rich as ours. Rather than expanding the UGA to build bigger houses on large lots, I urge you to plan for housing for all income levels and provide incentives for developers to build this housing. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Alex Gerdzhikov, followed by Wayne Dubay. Okay. Jim. Mall. >> AM I last? Thank you. >> I don't think so. >> My name is Jim Mall, MAUL Council chair, Marshall Council staff. I first want to thank you for your service and hard work. I really appreciate the job that you all do. Our property was. We are owners of the mall property. My brother and I own the mall property in Ridgefield that is recommended for inclusion in the Ridgefield UGA. Our property was previously added to Ridgefield UGA in the in the 200 or the 2007 update, and it was as part of a challenge to that. It was removed from the. Not included in the UGA as part as a mapping error as a result of a mapping mapping error. The property is now an island. It's a donut hole surrounded by the city and urban development, including. Our property is not an expansion of the UGA. It's filling a hole in. It will have a positive benefit of increasing urban density without increasing sprawl. We are surrounded by urban development. We have subdivisions on all sides of us. Except for the other side, which is part of the Ridgefield School District. The. We are at the intersection of Cado and Hillhurst Road. It is an important intersection in terms of future growth for the city of Ridgefield. It's going to be. At some point there is a roundabout planned for that intersection. There is an urban trail planned along our property, and it is likely also a going to be a conductor for traffic off of I-5 at some time. The size it's not suitable for agriculture zoned AG 20. It's ten acres, two homes. >> Thank you very much. >> Alex Luna. Followed by sunrise O'Mahony. >> Good evening. My name is Alex Luna, spelled LUNA. Our community is clearly expressing that we do not consent to a bare minimum approach to climate action, expansion of urban growth areas, and increasing urban sprawl. We do not consent to the destruction of our precious agricultural lands and the jeopardizing of our future food security for ourselves, our children, and future generations. Sometimes our frustration is so deep that we can't find the words. Fortunately, we have poetry and reflecting on the comp plan and all I wanted to say here, I couldn't get this poem out of my mind. So this is Questionnaire by Wendell Berry. How much poison are you willing to eat for the success of the free market and global trade? Please name your preferred poisons for the sake of goodness. How much evil are you willing to do? Fill in the following blanks with the names of your favorite evils and acts of hatred. What sacrifices are you prepared to make for culture and civilization? Please list the monuments, shrines and works of art you would most willingly destroy in the name of patriotism and the flag. How much of our beloved land are you willing to desecrate? List in the following spaces the mountains, rivers, towns, farms you could most readily do without. State briefly the ideas, ideals, or hopes. The energy sources. The kinds of security for which you would kill a child. Name, please, the children whom you would be willing to kill. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Sunrise, O'Mahony. Followed by Doug Hendrick. >> Hello and good evening, council members. It's hard going this late because everything that I have. Your last name. Sorry. Sunrise. O'Mahony. OMAHONEY. Sorry about that. So I'm going to. I jokingly said a minute ago. Ditto what a lot of people have said tonight. Big concerns about the legalities, the financial end of things and then the climate. So everybody that has spoken for the climate, for the environment, concerns about legalities, concerns about the finances, I stand behind strongly. There's also a lot of talk about Farmable lands. I'm all for farm, all for farmlands. But it's not just farmlands. If we're saying that the reason to be able to develop this land is because it's not farmable space. Those natural spaces are important no matter what. They're not something that we need to take lightly and develop. Once it's paved over, it's paved over forever. And that legacy is what all of you who are voting tonight make the decision to vote on. Are you going to vote to keep our spaces natural and healthy for the environment? And I thought it was about to run out of time. Anyway. So are you going to vote for that? Young you are my representative. I am your constituent. And I am asking you to please. I know that you and many of you here are not going to say, I don't want clean water. I don't want to have farms that I can buy food from. I don't want to have clean air. I don't think any of you can say that yet. This plan that you're looking at says the exact opposite. And again, just appealing. Please think about that, that little young Belkot. Please think about what the impact of what it is that you're doing, because this is not going to go away. It's not going to change if you vote the way that you're talking about potentially voting and hopefully don't. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Doug Hendrick. John Westerhoff, followed by Laurie Bramel. >> Good evening. I'm John Westerdal WESTERDAHL. >> I live. >> At 14102 northeast 52nd Avenue, and I've been in the Clark County residents for 33 years and raised my family here. More importantly, I've paid my taxes every year and I'm a registered active voter. Specifically, I would like to address the proposed rezoning rezoning area of north and south of northeast 1/39 Street and adjacent to northeast 50th Avenue. Council chairman. So I believe that's in your district. I have three comments, and thank you for the opportunity to address. One, I moved into my current residence in 2019, and I chose it because the surrounding area had only single family, traditional suburban housing code of R1-7.5. I do not want to see that changed. The proposed zoning change to R 32 will significantly impact the area in a negative way. In my opinion, traffic safety for the children in the area. There's a school in the area, parking, property values, the environment, neighborhood compatibility are just some of the impact concerns I have. Lastly, recently within the last year, there have been multiple construction projects and hundreds of apartments, condos, townhouses along northeast 72nd Avenue, south of northeast 134th Street. There is not enough infrastructure to support those houses, let alone additional high density zone changes that I'm referring to off northeast 139th Street, which is less than a mile away. In summary, I acknowledge and respect the need for affordable housing and the complexity of the zoning decisions. But bottom line, I don't think that area of 100 northeast 139th is in the county's best interest for high density housing. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> Lori Homola. Matthew Correra. Randall Friedman. Eve Hanlon. Who's who's I'm. >> Yeah. >> That's Friedman. >> Perfect. >> Let's go. >> Randall Friedman, FRIEDMAN Council. I was asked to hold up this sign and it is perfect. The Kamea Earth Day Society exists to respect the legacy of Kamea and Clark County of Earth Days creation. Dennis Hayes grew up the son of a chemist mill worker. He was called to create the first Earth Day and took it worldwide. It is the largest secular event in the world. It created principles to live by clean water, clean land and clean air. That's why we were we are here. We have submitted comments to the eyes and submit the Mill District plan. The concept is simple as hundreds of acres of mill property are remediated, that land is added to the Vacant Lands model and is available in the future. It is what the MTH calls future social use. Alternatively, canvas will live with a large brownfield next to its historic downtown, courtesy of Kolke Industries and continued sprawl. The remainder of our comment involves the Nevin property. This was 160 acres of bait and switch before the campus community. 18 days after the EIS was published, the Nevin property was designated rural land in the county. I won't go over our eyes. Comments. I will say that last Tuesday, Kamea staff told our planning commission that inclusion of Nevin will require work on the county owned Crown Road. With that narrow canyon, will Lacamas Creek be put into a concrete channel? We don't know, because it wasn't considered. None of the traffic impacts have been considered. Finally, regarding TDRs, it should not be put in a UGA with the rights that go with that until it is up and running legally for votes on our city Council and what commitment. That's why we have volumes of plans and codes. As Reagan said, trust but verify. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Eve Hanlon, followed by Diane Dempster. >> Hello, my name is Eve Hanlon. HANLIN. I am a small business owner and I've lived in Clark County since I was a kid. I understand the economic realities and the importance of healthy growth. I also understand land use as a sort of diversified investment portfolio, and the designation of too many agricultural and natural resources feels similar to selling off too many stocks for an immediate payday. Instead of balancing investments for long term well-being, there is tremendous evidence that changing weather patterns will affect our country's agricultural systems in the near future. Agricultural systems need to be conserved as well as invested in, and I'm very concerned about future generations having the natural resources that they need. I also understand there is an opportunity to amend the plan to align greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets with the City of Vancouver's reduction targets. We must do everything possible to ensure the health and well-being of future generations. Additionally, drafting a supplemental environmental impact study with appropriate zoning to accommodate housing and employment targets. I am really new to public policy. I've been learning a lot really quickly because I'm concerned and it is interesting being here tonight. This is my first time doing a public comment like this. It seems really clear what the community needs and is asking for. And thank you for hearing us and for considering all of this. >> Thank you. >> Diane Dempster, followed by Shirley Cline. >> Good evening councilors. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Diane Dempster, DEMPSTER. In 2016, against legal advice, the county approved Ridgefield's request to expand their urban growth boundary to include 102 acres of agricultural land, commonly known as the Brown properties. After that approval, but before the Growth Management Hearings, Board ruled on the issue. Ridgefield annexed the property. Subsequently, the Growth Management Hearing Board ruled that the land should not have been de-designated. But later the courts found that since Ridgefield had already annexed the property before the Growth Management Hearing Board decision, the ruling was not binding on Ridgefield. The Brown property remained within the city limits and is currently being developed. Ridgefield is now requesting that the AG land adjacent to the Brown property be de-designated and brought into the urban growth boundary because of its proximity to the now urbanized brown property. Wrongs do not make a right. Council should reject the city's request. Farmland is critical infrastructure to our food system. Clark County has lost 33% of its ag land in the last five years. We need farmers and farmland to feed our residents. Land here is very productive, but parcel sizes and lack of contiguous parcels make farming more expensive and difficult. We should zone larger parcels of ag land. We have some of the best agricultural land in the country, but if we continue to allow the unnecessary and unlikely and likely unlawful D designation of these valuable lands, then the only food we will have will travel thousands of miles and will not be fresh. Give agriculture a chance. This is your moment to act, to show you you truly support agriculture, not expansion. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Shirley Klein. Tim Emineth. Kristin Edmark followed by Sharon Peavy. >> Kristin Edmark, battleground Washington. Ed Marcus EDMARK. Like many others, I'm asking you, please deny the urban growth expansions, retain the agricultural land, include climate action in Clark County's Comprehensive Plan update. The Washington Department of Commerce recently found that the present urban growth area appears to be large enough for the expanded population growth. Our agricultural lands are important. Please develop climate goals which align with the City of Vancouver. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Sharon Peavy, followed by Monica Zazueta Tabor. >> Good evening. Thank you for this. Oh, my name is Sharon PVPEVEY. Thank you for this opportunity to share my views on future protections for our homes. My name is Sharon Peavy and I live in a gated 55 plus community with 170 homes. After a divorce six years ago, I paid $140,000 for my home. At the time, the monthly space rent was 525. It is now $1,417 and continues to rise across 170 homes. That amounts to $240,890 in monthly revenue. For the community owners. That should be enough to support meaningful maintenance and improvements, you would think. Instead, corporate and LLC owners buy additional manufactured home communities, allow existing properties to deteriorate, and treat residents as cash cows. They are building wealth at the expense of seniors and younger homeowners. These large owners are already preparing further rent increases and have challenged the 5% cap in House Bill 1217 in Spokane Court. Regarding the overlay, we want to know whether this policy differs from the protections already granted to manufactured home communities within the city. If landowners can still easily repurpose these properties and we lose our homes, it is the maximum compensation only $17,000 for our homes. I ask for stronger protections, including higher buyouts and a longer moratorium, perhaps 20 years. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Monica Tabor. >> Hello, everyone. My name is Monica Zazueta Tabor, A ZAZUETATABOR. This is my son, Aries Tabor. I'm disappointed in Councilor Glenn and Councilor Young's vote on the preferred alternative threatening our agricultural lands. The district one primary results show I'm not alone. Glenn won with 7369 votes, 34%. >> Hold on, hold on. You need to slow down, please. >> That's our court reporter. So if you could slow down a little bit, could. >> I get the time back then? Is that okay? >> Just keep going. >> Okay. Glenn won with 7369 votes, 34.76%. Barely a third. Dusty Arab. And Luke Lucas Bardo, who both opposed designating agricultural land, earned a combined 7865 votes, 37.10%. That's 496 more than Glenn Dusty missed the general by 216 votes. The community read the voter's pamphlet and made their voices heard. We need a holistic lens applied to the Growth Management Act. Holistic means looking at the whole picture at once the land, the water, the food, the climate, the more than human life, the well-being of the people and the generations to come. Instead of looking at each piece separately. When we do that, we see that we are fully embedded in the web of life and supported by our local and global ecosystems, and we need to start behaving that way. Science shows that our that we are overshooting seven of our nine planetary boundaries. I have printed them out so you can look at them. >> Baby. Oh no. >> The baby. >> Okay, Aries, if you would just state your name and. >> My name is Aries Taylor, TABORI fear about global warming gets so heavy that I just push it down and try not to think about it. And I know that's not okay for my mental health. This is why protecting where we grow our food locally matters to me. What scares me most is that my future depends on the choices you all are making right now. So please go for the same climate goals as the city of Vancouver. I don't want to look around and all I see are buildings. I want to see nature and farms. Can you. >> Could you pause? Because I think we have two different speakers here. So if we could give Aries. >> Yeah. >> A couple. >> Of minutes allow. >> I have I have like one sentence left. >> Well finish up, you can finish up. >> Can you please think about us when you're making your decision today. >> I just have my. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I just had to finish up mine real quick. Is that okay? >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you so much, Aries. I also have a policy suggestion called Portrait of Place. The county will establish a rental registration program, a continuously updated, publicly accessible database of every rental dwelling in the county, along with its manager or management company. All managers must register their units and file monthly compliance reports so the county can monitor safe and habitable conditions, track vacancy rent cost and give renters a searchable portal to housing of all types, with clear entry requirements posted for each listing, noncompliance will result in fines. We need the full picture to know whether this is a housing shortage or a shortage of homes people can actually get into because of rent cost and requirements. >> Thank you, thank you. Have you submitted that in writing already to us? >> I will submit it again. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> David Toyer followed by Wyatt Kinnee Anne. >> Good evening councilors. David Toyer traditional spelling of David. Last name is T as in Tom OYER. I am the president of Strategic advisors were a land use and economic development consulting firm that's been working with Klemz Le Center and Ridgefield on this TDR concept. Just wanted to make a few brief comments this evening on TDR, and I sent a letter in earlier today. We believe it's really important to establish a policy that provides guidance for both what the county should do to create a TDR program, as well as what the city should do, and we think that policy 1.1.24, which was brought forward in the city county process of proposing a county wide planning policy, is a good first step in that. And Councilor Little's language that he has also offered up is also a good policy language that could be included as a county comprehensive plan policy. Nonetheless, we have an opportunity right now through this comprehensive plan process to adopt a TDR program, something that the county originally discussed almost 15 years ago in in studies and in additional research. And so this is a time and you have an ability here to make a decision on a TDR program. And it's a decision on a program that stands alone, whether or not you designate land. That's one decision. Whether or not you expand your gas, that's a different decision. And then TDR is a decision amongst itself. Each one has its own criteria that have to be considered, and you're going to have to go through that process as decision makers. But we strongly encourage you to consider adopting TDR policies that allow the county and the cities to move forward with something that will help conserve agricultural lands for the long term. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Wyatt Kenyon. Jamie, followed by Jamie Young. >> Good evening. My name is Wyatt Kenyon. Kilo. India. November. India. Oscar. November. I am here to chat about code 42, 51, 20 and 4260. 20 years ago, my family was displaced by a mobile home park development. Counter to many opinions. This evening. I believe this was actually pivotal in the foundation of my family's wealth and prosperity, vibrance, and my ability to attend college. The reason I believe that is that we learned a valuable lesson in living in a mobile home park, and that is that you don't own the land underneath like an RV park. You should not assume that the structure you're putting on there is automatically implies you living and owning the property underneath. Specifically, I urge the council to understand that this proposed language puts a moratorium permanently on all redevelopment, and I'm against. Putting a stay on all development. I think that development might be an option for getting people out of these difficult situations. If I get bit by a snake, I don't lead others into it. And I think that for me, it is a very difficult position for both the seniors and the property owners. And so therefore, I'm in general against the overlay because of its outcome. But if it overlays insisted, I insist that they add they don't add the expansion language. That prohibits it from being redeveloped, but add tactful language that allows redevelopment to happen. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Jamie Young. Okay, so that is all that's currently signed up on the sheets. Is there anybody that didn't get a chance that's here that would like to speak? >> Hello, my name is Jamie Young. YOUNG. I live in North Salmon Creek near the fairgrounds on some acreage and adjacent to several of the parcels that are involved in this plan, particularly the parcel number 182138000. This property is currently mixed use. The decision table recommends changing it to R 24, while the county correspondence identified it as r 50 on the proposed map. So I'm trying to make sure that I understand that the review and verification of this parcel number is accurate, and we're talking about the same thing because our 50 versus R 24 is a big difference. Also access to sewer is a big concern is there is no accessible public sewer on northeast 1/64 Street in that location. And I just believe that residents who live adjacent to these parcels under consideration should be heard and notified and understand accurately what is happening around us. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. If you didn't get a chance to speak, go ahead and come on up to the mic. Please state your name clearly spelling your last name. >> My name is Bailey Green, spelled GREEN. I'm a 22 year old student pursuing a bachelor's in environmental sciences at Washington State University, Vancouver, and am the WSUV Environmental Science Club president. I was raised in Clark County and am deeply invested in the ecological restoration of Southwest Washington. Studying environmental science. I'm not only conscious of the dangers of climate change, but us emerging adults will also bear the brunt of the consequences of the council's decisions over the coming decades, as rampant expansion and overdevelopment in the pursuit of financial interests continues to devastate natural habitats. More species rely on farmland and open spaces as remaining harbors for survival, including serving as crucial stopovers for federally protected migratory birds, investing in local farmland, young farmers and gardeners are of increasing importance to us young adults. I and many other students work with the student gardens at WSUV, bringing food security onto our campus as regional and global food supply chains are increasingly unstable, we are relying on agricultural resource lands to aid in our food security over the next decades, and increasing our individual agency to tend to these lands. Students attending WSUV have been known to stay within the region after graduation, building their lives. >> In you. Please slow down. >> Many are the young adults who will be pouring back into this county. While the next comp plan will be in place, I will be one of them. I urge you to consider how we are relying on the protection of our local agricultural resource lands in this county to aid in our public health. As the climate crisis continues to negatively impact our food systems over time, we have known the risks of carbon emissions increasingly altering our atmosphere. And while federal governments and international organizations are failing US youth, it fails. It falls to us at the local level to make necessary changes before it's too late. I urge council to prioritize the preservation of our nature. Young scientists, gardeners and all youth by adopting more ambitious greenhouse gas emission targets and drafting a supplemental e s that limits urban growth. Boundary expansion protects natural and agricultural resource lands in the 2025 Comp Plan update. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay, chair, that's all that's signed up in the room. We do have 14 online. >> Okay, let's let's get started. I think we have a little time before we hit that two hour mark for another break. How are you doing, Cyndie. >> I can handle 14 more, but they need to slow down. I can't write that fast. >> Yeah, I know it's tough because we limited their amount of time. So anything you don't have a chance to say, please send us something in writing if you haven't done that already. Okay, let's let's keep going. >> Caller you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Hello? >> Yes. Go ahead please. >> Yes, this is Dennis Zimmerli. Good evening, Councilor Marchel and councilors. I'm joining you by phone because I was recruited to help feed steer tonight, so I so please excuse any background noise. >> Okay. Could you. >> Please. >> Please spell your name for the record? >> Sure, D I'm MERLY. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> Okay. Last week, I submitted two letters identifying several corrections needed in the comprehensive plan update. We asked council to act on both letters as it makes its final adoption decisions. Let me briefly highlight those main requests. First, please correct the Surface Mining Overlay map by adding the missing designations to four Washougal pit parcels within the long standing DNR permit boundary. DNR has reviewed the permit file, confirmed in writing that the approximately 120 acre permitted area has remained unchanged since 1972. This correction would not expand the DNR permit boundary or create a new mining area. Second, ask is the. Please revise the. Chapter three to protect mineral resources preferred and primary status, continued access and future supply and removes a blanket Reule zone exclusion and restore the existing mine exception and reconciled the FEIS acreage figures with mineral resources actually available. If the broader. Chapter three policy revisions require more time. >> I'm sorry, your time is up. We'll look at those letters. >> Kaliner. You've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Good evening, Kimberly Goheen Elbon. I quickly want to say that you people there, we the people, we are their boss. We hired them. They should be the ones thankful. Unfortunately, a lot of people had to leave. That's kind of by design. So I had something written up, but I lost it. But I did something else here. So. Kimberly Goheen Elbon GOHEENELBON. I have deep concerns and unyielding opposition to current trajectory of our local government, specifically regarding the state mandated Growth Management Act. As we the people, our constitutional rights and our voices are systemically, systemically being stripped away by top down bureaucracy mandates. The GMA, rather than protecting our community, has become a dangerous tool that centralizes power, bypasses local consent, consent, and fundamentally threatens the sovereignty of patriots who want to live freely on their lands. Also, illegal immigration is taking advantage of our hard earned tax dollars, and that's another depletion that we need to think about. It also goes against our federal law for our safety and our protection. Like it or not, our community is facing a multi-front assault on our environment, our health, and our freedom. This council has an absolute obligation, obligation to listen to the citizens that represent. We're the boss. You're not. Rather than blindly enforcing directives that harm our families and the land, we depend on our agricultural heritage and the security of our food supply are under direct threat. Real protection of farmland means keeping it pure and sustainable. Instead, the current system permits the widespread use of biosolids as fertilizer. They need to outlaw that, and shame on them for doing it. Let us be entirely clear biosolids are highly toxic sewage sludge spreading this waste under fields. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anne Shaw, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. Spell your last name for the record and go ahead with your comment. >> Anne Shaw, SHOW. Agricultural lands are precious. You have ample information about how the county can comply with state laws that govern the GMA process, yet we've heard very little about protecting agricultural lands. There are surpluses of buildable land. Expanding urban growth areas is not necessary. Do not deed designate agricultural resource lands. Protect working farms by adopting 40 acre agricultural zoning and remove nonagricultural uses from the GMA plan. Do not saddle County residents with fiscal irresponsibility. Do not give in to developers who will pave over prime agricultural lands for their own financial gain. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Jud, wait. You've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. You're unmuted Jud. We'll come back to you. Phil West, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Phil Wiest, WUEST. I'm with GYN Group in Vancouver, Washington. Madam Chair councilors, thank you for hearing my testimony. I'll be brief. I'm in favor of I believe it's the preferred alternative and the request of each of the cities for expansions of their respective urban growth areas. I also support the recommendations of the Development Engineering Advisory Board has made to the Council. The Dbw is made up of professionals that understand and have decades of experience in the business of development and providing housing to Clark County residents and commercial development and industrial developments and high quality jobs. I encourage you to listen to the input of those experts. So that's what I support. Just a couple of quick notes on issues that I hope you keep in mind. And I've submitted written testimony on some of these issues in prior in lead up to this hearing. First off, there's not enough land inside the existing Yugas. I think that the county is confused. It's vacant buildable lands model, which has many flaws in it with a true land capacity analysis that needs to be redone. The AG Land study was rushed and inadequate and didn't address minimum legal requirements. And then finally, there are some pretty heroic assumptions within the plan about how high density housing equates to affordable housing. And so I don't think that aspect of the plan has been adequately addressed either. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Andy Zorn, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Hello, my name is Andy Zorn, ZAHN. I want to voice my strong opposition to the expansion of urban growth areas. Clark County has lost too much of its agricultural and other undeveloped lands already. We must put a stop to the loss of our fields and forests, to suburban commercial and industrial sprawl. I remember how beautiful Clark County was when I was growing up in the 90s in southwest Washington, and it's deeply saddening to see how much of that pastoral landscape has been buried under subdivisions and strip malls. Clark County has more than enough existing built space already, and any further development should be focused in the current central areas of communities, not on top of prime farmland or native ecosystems. Sprawl drives up the cost of living, increases the burden on taxpayers to provide services and infrastructure, and impairs the long term economic viability of our communities. Please say no to sprawl and do not expand urban growth areas. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Robert Minturn. You've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. Robert, we've sent you a request to unmute. >> Is right in front of my face. Thank you very much. My name is Robert Minturn. I represent the Nevin family. I agree with both Bob Minturn and Alan Peter's statements today. I think that as I and others have noted before, it abundantly clear that Clark County will continue to grow and outpace other regions of this fine state. For obvious reasons, this trend will continue in places like cameras. Cameras has great opportunities economically. They have great schools, as in past Yugas, the. The county and cities have under planned and ended up against the boundaries, therefore causing more growth further away. That's the surprising thing. The Nevin property provides opportunity for a smart growth approach. >> Excuse me, could you spell your name for the record? >> Yes. Thank MINTURN. Smart growth does not enhance urban growth. It controls urban growth and it gives opportunity to all income levels and people that want to buy homes, not just landowners, get to live on five acre parcels we are trying to get away from that. Would like to go with a more smart growth approach. Our family has been on the land for over 53 years. The land has not been farmed and it is deemed no irrigation water available. The soil types have been proven to not be prime agricultural land. It has surface rock, basalt and it's even shown in the county mapping that was just recently done in the agricultural study that the soils do not behoove farming. If we are already zoned, our properties are already four, five and 20 acre parcels, and unfortunately they're going to be sold. >> Thank you. I'm sorry your time is up. >> Caller you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Hello. Good evening, Chair Marshall and councilors. This is Olivia Zimmerli Z. I'm MERLY, and I'm speaking in support of the preferred alternative, including retention of the North Field expansion. I submitted FEIS letter, sets out the supporting analysis and requested corrections. North Richfield has carried an urban reserve overlay since 1994. It adjoins Paradise Point Subdivision, which is also the planned site of the 2027 Parade of Homes, as well as the Costco commercial area and I-5, the expanding alien casino and resort complex is also nearby. I ask that you please evaluate the Johnson Economics study and property specific evidence under all three agricultural land factors that being urban growth, character, agricultural capability and long term commercial significance. Consider soil drainage, crop history, production costs, and market conditions within the county wide analysis. The proposal employment with the proposal excuse me proposal combines employment with nearly 1000 homes intended for households of 80% of Ami. More importantly, modeled capacity elsewhere does not establish that equivalent affordable housing will be delivered elsewhere. Please evaluate the city's analysis of housing capacity below. 80% of Ami before adoption. Please correct the acreage and capacity descriptions. Make signs addressing the agricultural record and the city city's housing, employment and infrastructure needs. And please retain Northridge Field, the preferred alternative. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Cindy Hsu. You've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> My name is Cindy Hsu. HOSS as in Sam z u. Thank you for staying late to hear from your constituents, the ones who voted for you, I appreciate that. I want to bring up a couple points. Number one, developers, a lot of these developers are nationwide. They are not local. They come here, they develop. They leave. Number two concurrency. This is a big problem. It needs to be addressed. We were promised, I understand, by a different council. We were promised that infrastructure would be before development. It didn't happen. You're still responsible because you are the county council. Number livestock. I want to deal with this. I live on five acres off of 179th Street. I have livestock. If you change your zoning, I will be next to 3 to 5 story apartment buildings with livestock next door. There needs to be a buffer between livestock and apartments. That is common sense, not rocket science. You're you're basing your county planning off of Olympia and Tacoma. They should be a lesson in what not to do, not what to do. Their traffic patterns are problems, and ours will be too. On 179th Street, we have already failed. By your own standards, changing the standards is irresponsible. I also agree with Gary's mom. I'm sorry I didn't catch her name, but I think her proposal makes a lot of sense. I don't want to take up more of your time. Thank you for hearing me. Good night. >> Thank you. >> Wendy Cleveland, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. Spelling your last. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your record with your comment. It's getting late. >> Wendy Cleveland, CLEVELAND. Earlier this year, I stood before you to speak about this comp plan. I was primarily focused on battleground site specific request for 450 acres of privately owned, pristine rural land known as the Dollars Corner expansion. When I found out that the decisions had been made about the land by both the Planning Commission and the county staff, using nothing more than county wide color block maps, I was appalled, so appalled that my colleague and I brought in blown up satellite view maps with streets and real pictures taken on the ground. Those pictures showed what we're about to lose. And it's not just here. It's all over the county. The stands of protected white oak, surface level water and ponds, and a fish bearing stream running nearly the length and breadth of that parcel. The council member from district one even came out with us for a site visit, before returning to his position on the dais and voting with the majority to go ahead with its destruction. One good person can save the world, starting with one good deed, one day at a time. Hearts can change, people can care. And one by one, more of us can begin to stand up. Stand up to the corruption and ill intentioned acts that threaten our natural resources and beautiful way of life here in Clark County. My question for you here is today, who among you will remember your roots and join me in standing up to choose to be on the right side of history with this historic vote? Someone once told me that integrity is a word for the young. I prefer to think it is a word for the brave. Be brave. Good night. >> Thank you. >> Donna Sinclair, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Hi. Thank you so much. My name is Donna Sinclair, SINCLAIR, and I want to thank the councilors and the county staff for staying here tonight and listening so intently. I'm here to talk about affordable housing, which we all know is one of the most pressing challenges that we have here in Clark County. It affects everything. And what I want to talk about is how we measure it. So we know it's not enough to just say that we need affordable, affordable housing. We have to be serious about addressing the shortage. And to do that, I would like to see us establish clear goals, measure whether we are meeting them, and adjust our strategies when we aren't. So what we know is that the state is already providing information under SB 5587, and I think it's important to note that a general commitment to increasing affordable housing shows good intentions, but it's not sufficient to ensure results. So what I'm going to ask is if you would please add language to the comprehensive plan that sets affordable housing goals, tracks progress and adjust strategies needed each year using the data that's provided by the state under 5587. That data shows the number of households by income bracket, the number of affordable housing units available to those households, and most importantly, the shortfall or surplus of affordable housing. So the language provides a simple commitment to accountability, and it should be in the comprehensive plan. So please set goals, measure progress, look at what's working and what's not, and adjust accordingly to effectively address affordable housing, we have to know whether our policies are actually closing the gap. A concrete action cycle using real data will make that possible. Please add this commitment to the comprehensive plan. And since I have 10s left, I just want to say it's been really amazing to hear all of the people come in here to talk about clean air, water, agricultural land, urban farms, and I really hope that you will support what they've been saying. And the mobile home overlay. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Emery, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and go ahead with your comment. >> Hello. My name is Sarah Emery. Last name a m as in Mary IRA. I come here today. Just a strong support of the Comprehensive Growth Management Plan. I was born and raised in Vancouver and have spent most of my life in Clark County. Over the years I've watched our community grow, but I have also seen housing become increasingly difficult to afford for many local residents. Like countless people who grew up here, I would like to continue building my future in the community I call home. However, the rising cost of housing has made home ownership feel increasingly out of reach. One of the primary reasons housing costs continue to increase is the shortage of available housing. When demand significantly exceeds supply, prices increase, making it harder for working families, young professionals and first time home buyers to purchase a home. Expanding the supply of land available for residential development is an important step toward addressing the challenge. The comprehensive Growth Management plan will help create opportunities for additional housing that can accommodate our growing population and ease upward pressure on housing prices. Clark County's growth is not slowing down. The question is whether we will plan reasonably for that growth or allow housing shortages to become even more severe by providing room for new neighborhoods and housing development. This plan will help ensure that future generations of Clark County residents have a realistic opportunity to live and work in the communities where they grew up. As someone who has deep roots in Vancouver, I believe it is important for local government to support policies that increase housing availability and improve affordability. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. >> Justin Berger, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> Good evening, Chair Marshall and councillors. My name is Justin Berger, that's BURGER. I live and farm in unincorporated Clark County. I'm asking you to remove the farmland D designations items five through nine and 28. The county doesn't need this land and D designating it invites an appeal. The county will very likely lose at the taxpayers expense. You chose a growth target nearly 2000 people above the state's most likely forecast. And it still fits Commerce, Commerce wrote on September 22nd. That, and I quote it appears that the current urban growth area boundaries are sufficient. And your staff's memo shows this plan provides about 10,500 more homes than the county needs. Commerce also warned that D designating farmland because it sits near growth and I quote, has not been found to be defensible. Your planning director acknowledged this in writing, and your Agricultural Advisory Commission unanimously recommended keeping existing farmland. This county already lost this fight over its 2007 and 2016 plan to designate, by my count, written comments oppose these. These designations more than 8 to 1 outside. Outside of the two cities. The support comes from landowners, their families, developers and law firms. A promise without details is an empty promise. Even the city's own suggested language lets the boundaries expand before any program exists, and the Planning commission voted down. The only version requiring an acre protected for an acre converted. These designations would, by a lawsuit, not land. Farmland once paved, is gone for our children. Please keep it in agriculture. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Patty Newkirk. You've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> Hello, my name is Patty Newkirk, NEWKIRK. I just would like to have you approve the overlay plan for mobile home parks. I've lived at Great Western Mobile Home Park for 30 years, and, you know, I've I've seen managers come and go and some enforce the rules and some didn't. And that's always been frustrating and still is. I think if the overlay zone, if the owners I'm sorry, if the owners go through the hoops and are still able to sell the parks out from us, they should compensate us more than what the state is. Rule is saying from 11 to $17,000, because our homes are worth more than that. So I it would be nice if there was some kind of a rule stuck in there about that. And also, there are people in this park that are making house payments. What are they going to do about that? You know, I feel like that they should be compensated because that wouldn't be right if they got kicked out and still had to make their house payment. But please vote for the overlay zone. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. One more, I'm told. >> Color, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> Rob Anderson, can you hear me? A NDERSON. >> Yes we can. >> Perfect. So I'm very privileged to be the last. I heard Donna Sinclair, earlier, the vice chair of the Democrat Party, give comment and many other Democrats that evoke the two magic words affordable housing. They have signs all throughout the county and want you to think that they believe in affordable housing. But the problem is, is that many, many Democrats like Donna Sinclair came out tonight, and they're advocating for a policy that would absolutely ruin affordable housing. And it's just simple elementary understanding of economics and it's supply and demand. And if you adopt a no growth plan, it is a recipe for skyrocketing costs that will just make homeownership unattainable. And the little truth here, if I may just give a little more of an opinion, is, is that many who spoke tonight here have radical views that want to strip private property rights and just hate capitalists. And developers are the capitalists. And so they want to just end that all together. And so I would ask that the county council would take a common sense, reasonable understanding that would help with affordable housing by having modest growth built into it, instead of a radical view of no growth. That will be devastating to future generations for home ownership. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. And I'm told we have two more. >> Yes. Jamie Housley, you've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> Yes. Good evening, Madam Chair. Council, for the record, Jamie Housley, HOWSLEY. Two minutes is not a long time, and we've been submitting a sufficient number of writing to. Add on to our testimony, but I want to briefly touch on the three requests by the cities of Richfield and Camas. First, Mr. Stewart eloquently stated the reasoning behind the two requests that they have before you tonight, including that the properties on the North Richfield area have been in the Urban reserve overlay since 1994. Those properties are characterised by urban growth, as they have the city limits on three sides of them. Also adjoining I-5 and then the Cowlitz tribe encroaching from the north side. Again, we refer you to our September 24th letter for more detailed data on that specific request. And then the mall request is even more egregious, with the city limits surrounding it on four sides, a middle school across the street, and the regional sports complex also across the street for the center. As Miss Merrill had pointed out, none of those lands out there are farm. They're paved over with businesses approved by Clark County as it is, and the Cowlitz Tribe is encroaching very closely. And then as far as the Nevin property out in Camas, I think Mr. Peters eloquently stated the rationale behind that. The properties are characterized by urban growth, with the city limits adjacent to the property and the city of Washougal right to the south of it. Your own agricultural report shows that these are not prime farmland or not farmland, a statewide significance. And so therefore, the designation of that has been in error for more than 30 years. And I think that the property owners have testified to the fact that they're not using it for agricultural purposes. So again, just refer to our letter of the 24th and you'll have additional detail. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Jude, wait. We've sent you a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> It says we can't hear you so. >> We can hear you. >> Oh great. My name is Jude. Wait WAIT. A wide array of tools are necessary to ensure the long term viability of agriculture, farming, water resource protection as mandated by the GMA and its intent. For example, TDR is but one tool. Another of the many climate element policies regarding agriculture and food is the right to food, which is encompasses more than threats to food security and food access. The right to food. Should you believe in feeding the children now and into the future, has a corollary farming, food production and land stewardship. Our community services, another universal principle deriving from WSU extension research on state and national policies to support long term agriculture is. This. Farmland must be treated as critical infrastructure. So this applies to the county and considering benefits to an array of municipal infrastructure, stormwater management, aquifer recharge revenue, energy, climate impact reductions, emergency response, and a decentralized food supply chain. Do you have the requisite political will? Given that Clark County has documented cumulative impacts of sprawl and accumulated loss of natural resources needed to ensure resilience and adaptability? Will you take a do no harm and care for the future generations? I just wanted to paraphrase one national organization, Ducks Unlimited partners with farmers, ranchers and public agencies to manage water resources and land use in ways that benefit fish, waterfowl and sustainable agriculture. Investing your decisions in climate resilience policies includes honoring critical infrastructure and the mantra. >> Thank you, Jude. And I see we have yet one more. >> Tim post. You've been sent a request to unmute. Please go ahead and do so. State your name for the record, spelling your last name, and please proceed with your comment. >> Thank you, Madam Chair and County Councillors. My name is Tim Probst, PROBST. And thanks for the excellent conversations. All night long I'd like to add my voice to the many, many folks who have talked about affordable housing as an emergency and a crisis, and how important it is to set goals and track them and make adjustments to make sure we're meeting our goals over time to. So I would like to ask for the not the whole Sep plan, but the. The comp plan to include language that commits us to that and commits us to use the measures from Senate Bill 5587 so that we're using good industry standards to measure our progress on affordable housing. It's so important for so many families, and doing it right is the right thing to do. I'd also like to add my voice to so many people who spoke very eloquently tonight, asking for the county to adopt the same climate goal as the city of Vancouver and allow zoning for affordable apartments, not designating farmland, but add more protections for farmland and supporting the AG Commission recommendations as well. It was wonderful to hear so many citizens talking about that tonight. And just to close the the Hosap plan does not hold the weight of law. It's really just a recommendation without teeth. So I would really ask for you to add to the comprehensive plan, the good work of tracking and adjusting as needed so that we meet our affordable housing goals as a county well into the future. So thank you very much. It's been a wonderful listening tonight. >> Thank you. >> Chair, that completes public comment. >> Okay. Thank you very much. So thanks, everyone for hanging in there. I want to thank everyone who's come forward to speak. I think there are probably several questions that were raised based on some of the comments I, I would like to close. Public comment, I think. Is that what I'm close public comment, but carry over this meeting to tomorrow at 10 a.m. where the council will deliberate and folks are welcome to attend in person and observe or participate, at least as observers online. So with that, I guess I will. What I'm not adjourning, what am I doing? >> You'll continue to tomorrow at 10 a.m. >> Continuing tomorrow till ten. Thank you.