Welcome to getting audio in the room from this microphone. >> Yes, they were earlier testing in the. They have everything tested. >> Okay. Can you hear me in the room? Perfect. Good morning. Welcome to the Clark County Charter Review commissions. District one, town hall. My name is Patrick. I am one of your elected charter review commissioners from district one. >> I am Anne Donnelly, a charter review commissioner, district one as well. Thank you for being here. >> Okay, so today we're just going to move through a presentation. Then we'll make time for audience questions and then have some discussion. So just the standard town hall format. And as folks trickle in, we can pause and go back as need be. But yeah, we'll go ahead and get started. So just a quick disclaimer. All of the content that we're going to present today is from the neutral standpoint, as we're here on behalf of the Charter Review Commission. It will not involve our personal opinions or politics. So the Charter Review Commission is comprised of 15 elected commissioners, three from each of the five county councilor districts. And today we are in district one. So this town hall, the goal is to inform you about the process and proposed amendments on the ballot and answer any questions about the Commission's work, receive feedback about the process and the amendments. We're not here to advocate for or against any specific amendments, or to provide any commentary on the suggestions or comments moving forward, the Charter Review Commission, again, is a 15 member elected body, was elected in November of 2025, with three members from each county council district. The Charter Review Commission is empowered to propose, consider and place amendments on the ballot to revise the charter. There are nine such amendments which have been proposed for the 2026 ballot, and there are some voters pamphlets on a table by the door here in the library, so feel free to pick one up on your way out if you haven't received yours at home already and are curious about what the actual language is in the pamphlet for each of those amendments. No amendments to the charter may be adopted without a majority vote of the people, and the Commission determines where or sorry, what is on the ballot for voters to approve or reject in this cycle. So what did that process look like? It started of spring and started in spring of 2026. We had initial proposals that were presented to the commission by individual commissioners. That was our first reading process. Five affirmative votes were needed to move those forward. They went to a second reading with eight affirmative votes needed to move those forward. We revised, refined and presented a more detailed summary of the proposals. At that time. Those went through a committee study process where committees were formed to analyze the proposals, revise them, seek any feedback from affected departments of the county and other stakeholders, and seek feedback from the prosecuting Attorney's office and financial services. That brought us to a committee presentation where the committees presented their final proposal to the Commission. The Commission debated those proposals and it needed eight affirmative votes to move forward from that step. Then from there, the successful proposals went to drafting our drafting committee, finalized them into an appropriate format, which was then reviewed by the prosecuting attorney's office. All of those final proposals went to a final vote, and eight votes were needed to send those to the ballot for voter approval. Which takes us to where we are now with those being placed on the ballot for the 2026 general election. That process will repeat for items that may be on the 2027 ballot, and possibly even until the 2028 ballot. That's still a bit up in the air as of the last meeting that we had. So throughout that process, we do want to hear from the public. So we're collecting feedback, doing town halls such as the one that we're at here today and seeking public comment at our meetings. So our meetings will resume. They generally are Wednesdays at 5 p.m. they're not weekly currently. They will begin to be weekly again in January of 2027. And we also have an online public comment forum. And you can email the Charter Review Commission at charter review@clark.la.gov. That's charter review@clark.wa.gov. You may also email individual members of the commission and find those emails on the charter review website. So we have an email newsletter to which you can sign up for if you're interested. So just a brief look at that timeline on the screen here there is a graph that shows from September to August, which identifies the different steps throughout that timeline, which the Commission went through for these proposed amendments. It begins with idea identification and sharing and reintroductions moves to first readings, then second readings, committee reports, then drafting, and a final vote. There are town halls in September into October, which is where we are now. And there will be town halls again in the spring from March to about June. Throughout this whole part of the process, the public comment form will remain open. So this is just to look forward to what our process will be for this current session that takes us into our proposed amendments, our proposed charter amendments for this cycle are. There are, of which there are nine are proposed charter amendment 19 concerning a limitation on consecutive terms for County Council members. Proposed charter amendment 20 concerning a revised budget transparency process. Proposed Charter amendment 21 concerning revised Council powers regarding boards and commissions. Proposed Charter amendment 22 concerning a clarification of nonpartisan office elections. Proposed Charter amendment 23 concerning a required annual report. Publication by the County Manager. Proposed Charter Amendment 24 concerning a requirement for housing impact analysis. Proposed Charter amendment 25 concerning the requirement of supermajority approval by Council for County Taxes. Proposed Charter amendment 26 concerning the initiative, meaning initiative and referendum process and proposed Charter Amendment 27 concerning legislative branch performance audits. So the next slides will dive a bit into each one of those. Just a brief overview of them. Again, this is from a nonpartizan standpoint and a presentation on behalf of the commission. So I'm just going to read the text as written. And we can get into some questions towards the end. So number 19, concerning the limitation on consecutive terms for county council members, this creates a term limit of three consecutive terms for members of the county council. And once a member has served three consecutive terms, they must sit out of office for a four year term before running for county council again. Number 20, concerning a revised budget transparency process modifies the deadlines for the creation and presentation of the county budget by moving some dates earlier in the year, requires an additional public meeting to present. The budget requires the County Manager to publish their budget instructions to county offices on a public facing website, and requires specified budget documents and supporting materials to be published on the public facing website. Proposed Charter Amendment 21 concerning revised council powers regarding boards and commissions. Allows the County Council to nominate individuals to serve on all county boards and commissions except the Ethics Commission. Currently, the council's only allowed to nominate individuals to three boards or commissions, and the county manager is solely responsible for nominating the rest. The county manager would retain the authority to nominate as well. This change provides Kol authority over nominations and this does not change the appointment process. Charter amendment 22 concerning a clarification of nonpartisan office elections. This amendment would eliminate the primary election for county nonpartisan offices, all elected executive and council offices in Clark County were only 1 or 2 candidates filed to seek the office. Those candidates would automatically be placed on the general election ballot. The amendment keeps the elections of those offices in even numbered years. Proposed amendment 23 concerning a required annual report publication by the County Manager. This proposed amendment would require the County Manager to present an annual report in a public meeting. Under the current charter, the County Manager may do so, but it is not a requirement. This amendment creates a requirement for the County manager to publish broadly the annual report. The term, published broadly, was intentionally kept vague to allow the county to determine the best means of accomplishing this goal. Proposed Charter Amendment 24 concerning a requirement for housing impact analysis. This amendment would require the county to publish a housing impact analysis before the county adopts rules that could affect housing. The analysis would describe potential effects on housing supply, land available for housing permit timelines, parking requirements and housing related costs. The amendment sets minimum standards and expectations for the analysis, but it does not determine the means or structure of the analysis. Those decisions are left to the council and county Manager to determine. Proposed amendment 25 concerning the requirement of supermajority approval by Council for County taxes. This amendment would require a supermajority vote of the Clark County Council to create a new Councilmanic tax, or raise the rate of an existing one. A supermajority is defined as at least two thirds of the Council. Under the current council size. That means four votes out of five would be required to raise a tax. This amendment does not change the process by which the county can refer tax increases to the voters, which requires a simple majority. Proposed amendment 26 concerning the initiative. Many. Initiative and referendum process. This amendment would lower the signature threshold required to get an initiative or referenda on the ballot in Clark County, from 10% to 8% of voters in the previous gubernatorial election. This amendment would allow initiatives that failed to get enough signatures to turn the initiative into a mini initiative, where the council must have a hearing and consider the proposal. This amendment would authorize the county auditor's office to use randomized statistical sampling to verify petition signatures. Proposed amendment 27 concerning legislative branch performance audits. The amendment would make clear that the County Council may conduct or cause to be conducted performance and program audits to review the effectiveness and efficiency of county programs and operations authorized. The council to conduct or commission performance audits of county programs and operations, and establish ordinances defining the performance, auditing process and contracting and contracting process for seeking outside auditing. Any performance audits conducted under this amendment would be done on an as needed basis, rather than on a fixed schedule. The audits conducted under this authority would be in addition to the audits required by state law and not a replacement. So thank you for bearing with me while I read through all of that. Those are all of the proposed amendments that will be on the ballot in November and are in the voters pamphlet currently to read about as well. So what we're looking for here is just to get your feedback. I would ask that just to aid in case there are a lot of questions, to try and just bring one question at a time so that we can get to everyone's questions. We're happy to go back as time permits. We will be noting the responses. So please make sure that you state your name for the record, the subject of your comment. And we just ask that everyone keeps their comments relevant to the Charter Review Commission and civil to all that are present. We also have some paper feedback forms up by the sign in area, which can be used to fill out your feedback. If you have an extended note that you would like to provide, we have an online comment form as well, so I'm going to pause now. Commissioner Garver has graciously agreed to run the microphone around the room as needed for folks who have questions, and we're happy to open the town hall and begin taking questions, feedback, and other just statements. Did I miss anything, Commissioner Donnelly? >> No, that's exactly right. And it's always good. I, I often speak up to make sure we use microphones for anyone here who has a hearing disability, which is more common than we would like to think. So always, always use the microphone. So what are the questions? Do you have any questions or did Patrick do such a fantastic job that he answered every question? >> Julie one question is. >> Oh, tell, tell your name. >> Tell your name. Julie. Julie Kepp right. You did not give any of the pros and cons to the amendments. And I thought in the last charter Review Commission meeting, which was, was that this week? Yeah. That you were going to do that as in a nonpartisan way as possible after some discussion. AM I wrong about that? >> You are absolutely correct. And I believe we do have those pros and cons with us, and we can present them as well. >> Oh, okay. >> It was something that, if I recall correctly from that meeting in the district five town hall, someone did ask about the pros and cons, and so they read them from the voters pamphlet. And so that we determined is permissible as it still hits the nonpartisan mark. So I'm happy to read those out. And I believe Commissioner Donley has those here to present. >> Great. Thank you. >> And thank you. >> Two is very important that we remain impartial, which in some cases is is difficult. So we want to be very strict and fair about that. So we will if asked for a pro or con, we will be sticking to the pro, the official pros and cons. And I think all of them were extremely well written and do probably the best job of explaining the two positions for each amendment. So what about other questions? >> I, I think perhaps as a response to that question, we could go through and present, for the record, just the pro statements or the. >> Statements which you'd like to hear us do that. Okay. >> That's good. So why don't we go back to number start with 19. >> Yes. Let's go to 19. I'll read the I'll do 19. Then you do 20. ET cetera. ET cetera. So the statement for is more choices. Fresh voices. Amendment 19 brings local term limits to the Clark County Council by limiting members to three consecutive terms. Periodic open seat elections encourage a. Encourages a broader field of qualified candidates, giving voters more choices. New council members add different perspectives and strengthen the council's connection to Clark County residents experience still matters. This amendment values experience gained through public service while making room for others to serve 12 years, gives council members ample time to learn the job, represent residents, provide steady leadership, build relationships, and complete major work. This is not a lifetime ban. Former council members may run again after one full term away from the office. Voters decide more citizens serve. Voters decide whether to establish this limit and continue choosing who serves in each election. Amendment 19 simply limits how many consecutive terms a person may serve on the council. The amendment expands public service opportunities and prevents long term incumbency from becoming a problem on the county Council. Clear rules same council role. The amendment establishes clear rules that apply equally to council members. Changing council positions does not restart the count. Current service and earlier terms served without a break count. Toward this limit, the council remains Clark County's elective legislative body with the same powers and responsibilities. Vote to approve amendment 19 and bring reasonable term limits to Clark County. And that was written by. And the committee is Brandon Erickson, chair. Dorothy Gasque, Liz Shaw. So the statement against. We asked the voters of Clark County to reject term limits on count. County councilors and vote no. Voters should continue to decide whom to reelect to the Clark County Council term limits a solution in search of a problem. Clark County councilors are elected to four year terms. At that time. Each councilor faces voters and makes their case for reelection. No Clark County councilor or commissioner has served more than two terms in 35 years. Voters, not the charter, decide, decided to remove those who overstayed their welcome. Term limits empowers special interests. The county council makes important decisions on a broad range of issues taxation, land use, transportation and public health. Councilors need at least one term to learn the complexities of their role. Term limits reduce the institutional knowledge shared by returning councilors. As a result, councilors might rely on outside interest groups or executive branch officials to guide their decision making. These people do not face term limits and in some cases, never face the voters term limits. Ignore voter preferences limiting a councilor to three consecutive terms restricts voter choice. Popular councilors who represent the people well may earn another term. Unresponsive councilors may not. In this way, elections hold councilors accountable a lame duck, an official who can't be reelected because of term limits may not work to represent voters. When a councilor does a poor job, the voters should decide their political future. Vote no on proposed amendment 19 that was written by Morgan Holmgren and other members of the committee are Liz Cline and Chuck green. Should I continue and read the rebuttals? >> I think we can just stick with the. >> There are rebuttals, as you know, and then there are rebuttals of rebuttals, which. Which is great. I think there's so much good information. There's almost like a mini debate right on these two pages. And I really appreciate that. Julie. >> Sorry, Cathy. >> You know, sitting next to you. >> So my problem with that, I didn't realize until till I got involved in this process is that the pros and cons statements are written by whoever is selected by the committee to, to, to write them. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person on these pro and con committees know what they're talking about. In a couple of cases, nobody volunteered. I think one of yours to write a con statement and another one. It seemed kind of obvious to me that the person who wrote the con statement didn't quite understand the amendment under discussion. So how. Useful, I mean, how much can a voter rely on them in the long, you know, you don't know the I don't know how to describe it. Do you know what I'm getting at? >> I do, I do understand it seems a little obscure as to how these committees and especially the chair, how are they set up? And I can I can say with with great assurance that the people who are advancing this amendment think long and hard about who should be on that committee because they want to they want to convince the voters who are who maybe only look at this, this page for one minute, two minutes. They want it to be the most convincing that it can possibly be. And, and so they do their best job. And the con people, they do their best job. And if it doesn't seem always of the similar quality throughout, that is just the way it goes. And they do their best and they think long and hard and it's very difficult to to put your words into the, into the word limit. So, you know, I hear you, but it's an imperfect process, like so many others of our of our system. It's an imperfect process. But the others are worse. I believe Churchill observed. Yeah. >> I think it's also important to add that that's also another data point in your consideration, right? So if you read a statement, whether it's a pro or con statement and you feel like that person might not have a full grasp of the issue, that to me is another data point in how I decide, you know, how I'm going to to vote on that, right? Someone is trying to convince me of something that they don't fully understand, versus someone is trying to convince me of something that they do understand or what have you. So, you know, irrespective of whichever amendment we're talking about, whatever the process is, I think the way that you feel after reading a statement, whether it's pro or con, is another data point in how you make that decision. And so I would just add that. >> I look at the one where you didn't get a con statement. And I mean, it's pretty innocuous amendment, but that could lead someone to believe, well, it must be a great amendment if nobody's against it. You know what I mean? I mean, again, it goes back to Anne's point. There's nothing we can do about it. If nobody steps up, nobody steps up. And people can make their own judgment. One final thing on the pro and con committees on the ballot is that I don't believe that the website or the Facebook or whatever connected to the pro or con committee should be an election website for someone's personal election. If somebody is running for an office, they should not use their personal election website as the resource for a an amendment going on to the charter. And I looked. I contacted the elections office, talked to what's his name, Rich Cooper. Well, I didn't talk to him. We emailed back and forth and he said, that is up to them that they have no control over what website or Facebook or whatever resource you want to put as the link to your committee in the voter's pamphlet. And I think that is. And when you go to this person's website, election website, I could not even find anything about the charter. So that is really disingenuous and just bad. >> So good point. Julie. Good point. So how about if we go on, unless there's no further additional on this, should we go on? And you you read the next one. >> I think it's important just to to call out, you know, as you did speak to the elections office. Clearly that is something that is permissible. And so I don't know that we necessarily have feedback on that as as a commission. And in this format, can I give our personal views? But if the elections office says that that is permissible, then it is. However, I would say, just as I said to the other question, that that's another data point, especially for voters who may have that other election on their pamphlet. >> So I just wanted to vent. >> Well, we appreciate that. >> Thank you. That's what this is. This forum is about. The opportunity. >> Okay. So yeah, why don't we move to 20 concerning revised budget transparency process. So the for statement reads, a vote for a more open and public budget process is a vote for the responsible, transparent and efficient use of taxpayer funds. In 2025. The first public presentation of the budget was October 29th, and the budget was adopted on December 2nd. With almost no public involvement. Most people are engaged with elections and holidays during that time. The amendment moves some county budget deadlines back slightly, and requires the first public presentation of the proposed budget to be made the first week of September 2nd presentation in October, and the final budget adoption hearing to be held in November. Moving the public presentation to this time will give the people better visibility to the county's almost $900 million budget, give them time to investigate and provide feedback, and give the council more time to consider that input and direct the process. There is nothing that the county does that impacts the people's lives more than the adoption of the budget and any proposed tax increases required to implement it. The people should have more visibility to the deliberative process and proposed funding, so they can make sure the budget reflects the values and priorities of the people. A budget process that is more transparent and facilitates the involvement of the public will equip us to work together to meet our community's future needs and challenges. And that is that statement. The statement against is Vote No on amendment 20 to revise the budget process. The county already follows state rules, deadlines and budget requirements to ensure the budget is completed correctly and on time. Adjust the process, not the charter. No charter amendment is needed because the charter already allows this flexibility, County leaders and the county council can add steps or set earlier deadlines if they want to. The charter does not need to include all the details of how the budget process works. If better instructions are earlier, deadlines are needed, county leaders and councilors can update the rules and procedures. The charter sets the basic rules for county government. The charter provides the basic framework for how county government works. This proposal adds process details that do not belong in the charter, adding these details can make it harder for the county to improve the budget process in the future. Keeping the charter focused on the big picture structure gives staff the flexibility to use the most effective and efficient budget process possible. So those are for 2020. Questions on 20 comments. Okay, then we will move to 21. >> Okay. Statement four this is concerning revised council powers regarding boards and commissions. Amendment 21 gives our county Council the ability to submit community members for consideration to the volunteer boards and commissions that help keep our county running. Currently, the Council can only nominate volunteers to the Planning Commission, Historic Preservation Commission and the Board of Equalization. This amendment expands that ability to include other boards and commissions now and in the future. With the important exception of the Ethics Review Commission. This could potentially reduce the burden on county staff to fill spots on these commissions and increase the council's ability to keep these important volunteer roles filled. Councilors hear from the community often, and they can help ensure that those who want to contribute can. A yes vote will make this common sense. Adjustment to our charter and there were. There was no con committee and thus no con statement. >> Yes, it says after recruitment attempts, no person within the jurisdiction volunteered to write a statement against proposed charter Amendment number 21, and therefore no statements were submitted. Okay, okay. >> Going to 22. >> Yes. That takes us to. 22 make sure the right slides on there. Perfect. Okay. The statement for 22 Charter Amendment 22 clarifies Nonpartizan elections. Charter amendment 22 removes nonpartisan county races from the primary ballot when there are only 1 or 2 candidates and places them directly on the general election ballot. This is how other nonpartisan races already work, like county council or sorry, like city councilors, fire district commissioners and school board members. Elections would still happen in even numbered years. When most voters turn out in 2021, more than 64% of voters chose to make all county offices nonpartisan. They wanted officials to answer to all citizens, not just one party. But the voting process itself never changed. Today, every candidate still appears on the primary ballot, even when only 1 or 2 people file. State law already skips primaries for nonpartisan races with 1 or 2 candidates. This amendment applies that same money saving rule to county races. Primaries exist to narrow down large fields of candidates to the top two vote getters, with only 1 or 2 candidates. There is nothing left to narrow. Charter amendment 22 saves taxpayer money. Every election costs taxpayers money. The county must print and mail ballots and voters pamphlets and list each candidate. When a race only has 1 or 2 candidates, listing them on both the primary and general election ballot uses taxpayer dollars unwisely. For instance, five races on your ballot had two or fewer candidates file but still appeared on the primary ballot. Vote to approve Charter Amendment 22, save tax dollars and stop unnecessary primaries. The For statement sorry, the Against statement says the purpose of election is not simply to produce a winner, it is to give voters a fair and informed opportunity to evaluate those asking to represent them. Under this amendment, when two or fewer candidates file for an affected county nonpartisan office, the race would not appear on the August primary ballot, and the candidates would not appear in the primary voters pamphlet. Voters would lose months of publicly provided information about candidates seeking offices responsible for elections, public safety, criminal justice, property assessment and other vital services. Elections are the citizens interview process. The primary election introduces candidates, encourages public discussion and gives voters time to prepare qualifications to compare qualifications before November. It also gives first time candidates valuable exposure and feedback about whether their message is reaching voters. Incumbents already have name recognition and results from previous campaigns. Eliminating the primary creates a built in advantage for incumbents. While challengers lose months to introduce themselves and build public support, supporters cite election cost savings, but administrative savings are a poor trade for delaying voter information and reducing opportunities for candidates to compete fairly. Elections elections should serve voters first. The proposed amendment also embeds even numbered year county elections in the charter, when ballots already include federal and state contests, voters should retain the opportunity to reconsider election procedures in the future. A county charter should strengthen public participation, not diminish it. Vote reject on proposition 2622, and that is the against statement that takes us to 23 unless there are any other questions on. 22 okay. We'll go back. >> So. >> So I am for this because it aligns with what the intention was. It seems like a no brainer to align these two things up. Interestingly enough, at the town hall in district five, two weeks ago, people were all on board with not voting yes for this because they felt like the amount of money it would save the council. I mean, save the taxpayer, save the county, excuse me, would be nominal compared to other things, but they were all on board with supporting the 1% supermajority because that would save them money. And I can't quite line up. This is just. You know, if we're going to run bipartisan races, they should be run like bipartisan races or nonpartisan, sorry, nonpartisan. And honestly, after watching the Charter Review Commission and the council, I'm wondering if with regards to the council and the commission, if it isn't a little bit disingenuous, that we even call those nonpartisan, many of the commissioners on the Charter Review Commission vote in a very partizan way. So I'm not sure we are aren't misleading voters by running these these elections under the nonpartisan banner. And that's my editorial for today. >> Thanks for that. >> Thank you. We appreciate the comment. >> Let me get my own thoughts. >> Okay. So we're going to 23 statement for amendment 23 makes two key updates to the charter. It creates a clear requirement to produce an annual report of what's happening in our county government. And it requires the report to be published. Broadly. These requirements strengthen a foundation of government transparency and accountability in Clark County and ensure that information is easy to find. Producing and publishing the report once per year requires a minimum level of oversight to our community. Without overburdening county employees. Putting this in the charter ensures that this reporting doesn't depend upon who's in office or on staff, and that the public will always be made aware of this information. We ask for your vote for this common sense update, seeking improved transparency and accountability in local government. The statement against against charter amendment amendment number 23, the primary change the charter amendment makes to the County Charter is that the County Manager must present to the Council in a public meeting and publish broadly an annual statement of the county's fiscal and governmental affairs and any other report which they may deem necessary. The committee concerns are that the broad publishing mandate is not restricted in relation to county elections. In years that county elected incumbents are running for reelection, or the county has put ballot measures out to voters. This proposed publish broadly mandate could be used to mail out information prior to the election that favors county and incumbents or county ballot measures. Our committee has noticed that some tax districts do mail out glowing, multi-page colored print annual reports around two months or less prior to elections, at which tax hikes are requested. Committees against these tax hikes have no taxpayer funded mailers, ever. And then she states the state law. RCW4252185. Restrictions on mailings by legislators does not allow legislators to send mailers at taxpayer expense during election season, mandating broad publishing ignores any election restrictions that should apply, and cost constraints that might limit the manner in which this information is published. This amendment should be rejected. The Charter Review Committee can fix it next year if they deem it necessary. Any any questions about that or comments? >> I just want to make a quick comment about the fact that I know the people who were on the. Four committee, and what I love about it is that there. This does seem to be a nonpartisan committee, and I. I would really encourage the Commission to have more of this. Both sides of the aisle on committees, but more importantly, both sides of the aisle. On the study committees, we had very few people who were willing to be on a committee that they were could be against the amendment, but wanted to be in a position of exploring it further. And in one case in particular, it ended up that the person who was on the committee who had started out against it was on the study committee. And when it came time to vote to pass this to drafting was still against it. But it it bulked up the committee. So I really, really encourage the Commission to try and do more of that. You know, being on each other's and genuinely for the purposes of making the amendment the best amendment that they can make it. Thank you. >> That's really valuable feedback. Thank you. And I think that's something that at least I'm going to take from this and make sure that we relate to the Commission when we talk about how this town hall went. >> Right. And good comment. And I would point out that part of of the form that you need to fill out as a commissioner advancing amendment is to say what changes you made that were the result of hearing from people who maybe disagreed or who had some other information. And so you list what you did to conform and to make your amendment better as it went forward. So that kind of goes along with what you're saying. >> Right? Exactly. Right. >> Shall we go to 24? >> Yes. Is that you or me? >> I think it's me. >> Okay, good. >> Okay. So the for statement for proposed amendment 24 reads better information, better housing decisions for too many families. The dream of owning a home in Clark County is slipping further out of reach. This amendment ensures decisions affecting housing costs and housing supply are guided by greater transparency and better information. Before new land use and construction regulations are adopted. Understanding impacts before acting this amendment does not dictate policy outcomes or prevent the county from adopting new regulations. It simply ensures elected officials and the public have reliable information about the potential impacts of important housing decisions before they are made. It applies only to discretionary decisions initiated by the county, not routine updates required by state law. Focusing analysis where it matters while limiting unnecessary costs and delays. Planning for Clark County's future. Clark County is growing and the choices we make today will influence influence by their families, workers and future generations can continue to find opportunity here. Housing decisions have real consequences for the cost and availability of homes. By identifying potential impacts before regulations are adopted. This amendment helps avoid unintended consequences that could raise housing costs, limit housing opportunities or make it harder for people to afford a home. In Clark County, an approved vote supports transparent, accountable and informed decision making. Housing policy should be based on evidence and understanding, not guesswork. Families deserve to know how decisions made today could affect the cost and availability of housing tomorrow. That is the statement for the statement against reads. This proposal attempts to address a pressing policy issue in the wrong place. The County charter. This amendments required reports would provide little benefit to the public, but the cost associated with creating each of them would be paid by taxpayers. Please vote no on amendment 24. Micromanages Policy Process. The charter provides the framework for county government amendments not relating to the structure, organization and governance of the county are not appropriate. This proposed amendment is an example of overreach and micromanagement. Housing and land use policy and priorities should be left to the Council, where current needs can be assessed. At public hearings. The county already hears about how its decisions affect housing costs through the Development, Engineering Advisory Board and the Planning Commission. Housing affordability not caused by county policy. Home construction costs are outside of the county's control. Construction engineering standards are driven largely by state and federal regulations. Local land use planning decisions, codes and policies do not cause housing shortages. If they did, the rate of purchases by first time home buyers and median buyer households would be lower in Clark County than in any in other Washington counties. This is not the case. Not a solution. Please vote no. The proponents of amendment 24 state this amendment will help reduce unintended cost increases on housing. More analysis will not solve the problem of housing affordability. This amendment would cost taxpayers for. It would cost taxpayers for issues. The County cannot control high interest rates and state and federal mandates vote no, and that is the statement against. >> Any questions or comments on that one. >> Okay, okay. We'll move on to 20. >> Right on to 25. This. Oh go ahead. >> One question. >> I'm wondering why the amendment sets minimum standards and expectations for the analysis, but does not determine the means of structure of the analysis. So this is quid pro quo. Or is this at will. Because the structure is very important to the analysis as well as meeting the standards and expectations in a proper manner and a proper process. So I'm wondering why that is in there. And I know you cannot answer that probably right now, but it does not make any sense that the county manager has, you know, is basically still equivalent as a number six commissioner. That is a little bit difficult to understand, where it's really a separation of powers. >> And can you please state your name for the record? >> Mayada Allen. >> Thank you. >> Does it make sense to pass that? Good question on to the the pro committee. Can we do that and have them rather than having her have to wait or not get a good answer? The best answer I can make that happen, and I would be happy to do that. >> Because originally when we started the charter committee way back when with Betty Sue and Lucas and all the other usual suspects, including Henderson. >> Yes. >> There was a separation of power intent. However, what the practice is a co-equal decision making and. It's a de facto number six commissioner, and that should be reanalyzed. The manager should be reporting, but not quote unquote, making decisions. >> Since you and I are in in touch, we know each other. You could send that question to me and I will make sure that you get an answer. Thank you. Okay. Let's see. We're going on to 2625025 okay. And is that me? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Here is the, the statement for tax increases should require broad support when families and businesses are already paying more for everyday expenses. Government should think carefully before asking taxpayers to pay even more. This amendment raises the standard for future council approved tax increases by requiring a minimum two thirds affirmative vote of the County Council before a new Councilmanic tax may be assessed, levied or increased. A supermajority requires council members to work across political lines and build greater consensus before raising taxes. Requiring broad support also provides greater tax predictability for households and businesses, encouraging long term investment and responsible planning. This does not change any current tax or fee. It does not reduce or eliminate any current county service or program. Clark County will continue providing essential services, including public safety, roads and parks. Instead. This amendment protects taxpayers from future tax increases approved by only a narrow majority, while encouraging future county councils to build broader support before asking taxpayers to pay more. At a time when families and businesses face rising costs. This added safeguard helps ensure tax increases are carefully considered before they are approved and approved. Vote supports greater consensus before raising taxes. Tax increases deserve broader support. That's the pro statement. And going on to the con statement, not a tax cut. Please vote no on the proposed supermajority amendment. This amendment will not cut your taxes because Most taxes are not set by the County Council. Counties already have tight limits on raising taxes, and voters must approve extra taxes, such as bonds and levies. County council has not taken tax increases lightly in seven of the last 14 years. They not approve the 1% property tax increase allowed by law. Threatened services you rely on by not increasing taxes by 1%. Clark County has had a hard time keeping up with services people expect, and that the state requires a supermajority requirement makes it harder for the council to fund law and justice, which is 73% of the county's budget. Approximately one third of this goes to the sheriff's office maintaining roads, providing timely permits, funding parks and ensuring water quality might also decline without the 1% increase. Gives veto power to a supermajority. The supermajority requirement sounds like a simple two thirds rule, but with only five councilors, two thirds means four out of 5 or 80% of councilors must agree. This would make Clark County the most restrictive in Washington, allowing two councilors to to control county funding puts public services at risk. Vote no on proposed amendment 25, and that is the con statement. Any any questions, comments, etc. welcome. Okay, >> Julie Cup again. So I'm on the con committee. I'm the tax cut or not a cut or services being threatened. My main thing with this is it is just undemocratic. And that probably won't hold sway with many people. But Washington state voters voted for to allow Council to implement these councilmanic taxes, taxes that they don't need to go to the voters for. And. Therefore, Council should be able to say yea or nay to these tax councilmanic taxes on a simple majority of three out of five. And the fact of the matter is that that is what has happened in the past 14 years. Seven out of the 14 times the five member County Council has voted not to take the councilmanic tax. So this is a pro, not a problem. This is not a problem that they pass this tax automatically every single year. They're very cognizant of when they should take it or don't take it. Or maybe there's just councilors who are never going to take it. I do know in the district five League of Women Voters Forum, and also it's reported in the Colombian. One councilor has said straight up councilor running for district five position on the county council that he is not going to take this tax. I don't see how you can say I am never going to take that tax, and you're not even on the council. You don't even see how the county functions, and you have very limited information. And I know for a fact that at the last budget discussion in December of 2025, councilor for district four, Matt Little made a point of saying that he is fiscally conservative, but that he believes he's fiscally conservative. He does not take a tax willy nilly, but that he has seen the county in action. They run very lean. They do the best they can with the resources they have. And so he voted for this. There was a discussion. There's one councilor already on the council who doesn't ever vote for it unless it's regarding public safety. Other than that, she's an out on every single one. So what happens is if you demand four out of five, you're going to end up giving the minority the two out of five and a a disproportionate amount of power and influence on the council. And the idea I'm going to keep going, the idea that you are going to convince these people that they should. I don't know what is pictured here, would have to happen to convince the councilor of district two and maybe the councilor of district five, if he's elected to not take. It is beyond me. So it's giving their constituents a disproportionate amount of power over everybody else in the county. And that is my thing. But yes, it would impact services. So when people complain my taxes are too high, blah, blah, blah, that's fine. But the county needs a certain amount of money to function. They're already in a structural deficit. You impose this on them and you are going to create a situation that they have even less control over what to do with their finances. So I am so against this. I can't even stand it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for the extended feedback. Other comments on 25. Okay. We'll move on to 26. >> I think so, yeah. >> The for statement for Charter amendment 26 reads charter amendment 26 makes citizen participation more achievable. Charter amendment 26 makes it easier for Clark County citizens to have a voice in their government. The amendment would lower the verified signature requirement for initiative and referendum petitions from 10% to 8%. It would also let valid signatures from an unsuccessful initiative transfer to a mini initiative once the 3% threshold is met, so public support is not wasted for petitions affecting only unincorporated Clark County. The required number of signatures would be calculated using the same method as petitions affecting the entire county. The county auditor may also use random statistical sampling to verify petition signatures by sampling at least 3000 submitted signatures. The amendment also protects petitioners by ensuring that no petition can be rejected based solely on statistical sampling. According to the elections office, statistical sampling would reduce staff time when reviewing signatures and would lower county costs. This amendment is a practical step toward making Clark County government more responsive to its citizens. The charter gives residents the power of initiative and referendum, but since Clark County adopted Home Rule in 2014, no citizen position petition has qualified for the ballot. One major barrier is the current signature requirement. This amendment would make the process more accessible while preserving the safeguards needed to ensure petitions have meaningful public support with bipartisan support, Charter amendment 26 offers a balanced way to strengthen public participation while keeping important safeguards in place. Vote to approve proposed charter amendment 26. That was the fourth statement, the statement reads. In 2022 in Clark County, a similar measure to reduce the required signature percentages for initiatives and referenda was rejected by 59% of the vote. While this version adds a technical change in how the elections office certifies initiatives by permitting statistical sampling for signature verification, the proposed lower thresholds are the same as the ones which voters rejected in 2022, with attention focused on election integrity. All signatures should be verified. Does lowering the threshold for initiatives work? Both Whatcom and Snohomish counties passed charter amendments to lower these thresholds. Even with these lower thresholds, no initiatives have made it to the ballot. Please vote against this amendment. That was the against statement. Are there any questions or comments or feedback on proposed Charter Amendment 26? Now that we've read the for and against. Okay. >> If not, we'll go on to proposed charter Amendment number 27. The statement four reads, a vote for performance audits is a vote for responsible, transparent and efficient use of taxpayer funds. This amendment would give the County Council, the representatives of the people the power to conduct audits of county departments or programs as part of their legislative duties. Performance auditing has been shown to improve the efficient use of funds in government operations. The County auditor already conducts routine audits of county finances. The amendment does not duplicate or replace those efforts. This amendment specifically addresses auditing department operations or programs. It grants the power to conduct independent audits to the body that approves the budget for those departments and operations. The county council, auditing departments or programs for effectiveness should be one of the considerations for continuing a program or operation. Other Washington charter counties have given this power to their representatives and believe auditing is a way to maximize cost savings, improve program effectiveness and efficiency, and maintain best practices. This amendment gives the Council the discretion to define the scope of the audit and determine if a county employee, the auditor's department or an outside contractor will conduct it. This flexibility will maximize the efficient use of the audit process. Direct access to information produces better policy, and the Council is responsible for policy in the budget. Give the Council this tool to do it better. Vote yes on proposition 27. Performance audits. The con statement reads. Please vote no on Charter Amendment 27. County councilors can already request audits. Any Clark County resident can also ask for an audit. An audit, oversight committee reviews requests, and a county councilor is always on that committee. The council already has a voice in the audit audit process. State provides free outside review if a councilor wants an outside review. The Washington State Auditor's office already offers one for free. County staff have used this service before. Hiring private audit firms costs taxpayer money, and those firms do not answer to voters. We should not spend extra money on something we already can get at no cost. Extra audits will add expenses. Our county already has strong audits. We pay the Washington State Auditor's office 350,000 to 400,000 each year for required audits. Amendment 27 would add new costs, not reduce them. It's fiscal analysis says it could cost taxpayers at least $100,000 more each year. Costs could grow even higher. For example, Pierce County spends about 600,000 a year on performance audits. Why pay more in taxes? Adding outside audits does not guarantee savings. Their recommendations can increase costs instead of reducing them. Our county already has a limited tax base and struggles to fund important to fund important services like public safety. We should not spend taxpayer money on reviews we already can get for free. Vote no on Charter Amendment 27. Any questions about that? >> I do. >> Have a question. So regarding this one, the council can ask for an audit. Would there be a vote on the council to ask for an audit or would be in the purview of each councilor if they wanted an audit, to ask the county manager, I want an audit on this now. Go do it. Or would it be, hey, Council, I want to conduct this audit. What do you think? Let's take a vote. >> As I read it. And Commissioner Ortega may be sure to give your view. This would give the county council the right to call for an audit. And that would be a majority vote. AM I correct? >> I'm not entirely. >> It doesn't say anything about that. >> I don't have the text of the resolution in front of me, but I can try and find that. >> Yes, it could be that any single council member could could call for an audit, but I believe unless it's made clear it would be a majority vote, I don't think it means that any one council member can independently call for. >> An audit. I see what you're saying. It says gives the council, but it doesn't say, you know, a majority of the council or forfeit. >> That's true. It is unclear. >> That just occurred to me. But the other thing regarding this, maybe if it said a majority of the council would have to agree to push this audit, but otherwise I could see councilors being pushing political, I don't know, shenanigans. Maybe they don't feel like one of the departments is necessary or whatever, has a pet peeve with them and can insist on doing what I would consider punitive audits. So I think that is an important thing to know. >> The text of the resolution says the county council may conduct or cause to be conducted performance and program audits to review the effectiveness. ET cetera. ET cetera. So my read of that is that the council as a body may conduct a cost to be conducted. It doesn't say an individual councilor, but I'm certain that as many things in life, that interpretation probably will come during implementation as opposed to speaking to it. >> Another thing regarding this amendment, but other ones too, is. County Councilor Sue Marshall chair Sue Marshall wanted to put forward. The council put wanted to have the Council put forward a charter amendment that there would be a fiscal analysis included in the voters pamphlet for each of these charter amendments going forward, and the council did not vote to do that. But I feel it is critical that voters have access to that fiscal analysis that is available on the website. Related. But people people I don't know how willing they're going to be to want to dig for information. And I really feel like in some of these amendments, it's critical to know what the cost would be pro and con for some of these amendments. For example, 27, if we have to pay an if they have to pay an outside auditor to conduct an audit, it's going to cost a substantial amount of money. And you'd know that if you looked up the fiscal analysis, you don't know it from this. You see what I'm saying? So I hope, are you doing it. But councilor puts forward an amendment to have a fiscal analysis attached to these charter amendments for the benefit of the voter. Thanks. >> Thank you. That's good feedback. That takes us through all of the amendments that are proposed this cycle. Oh, we've got one more question. All right. >> Molodih Kaulen again, one of the things that you do have a good thought over there. However, it needs to be taken a little bit further as to provide how many people voted for it or how many council people had voted for it. Who who seconded it and what the vote was. And then also to quote unquote, establish a protocol to follow up and do a little bit better, quote unquote monitoring than this particular language allows for. >> I just want to make sure that I'm hearing the feedback clearly. Are you saying that we should have who voted for it? Who seconded it as far as the charter amendments, or is that specific to your feedback on the. >> Specific duties concerning legislative brand of performance audits? >> Okay. >> Thank you. And that is very important to have a procedure and a follow up and implementation. If there is a problem, there's absolutely nothing that says any quote unquote protocol as to how to implement this particular piece. >> So that actually I do have maybe not the answer that you were looking for, but there is text in the resolution that says the county council shall establish by ordinance within the legislative branch, an independent county performance auditing process. So this proposed amendment leaves that implementation to the county council. >> Never knowing as to who the county Council is going to be. It would be prudent and responsible to provide a process as part of this amendment. Otherwise, it's a whatever. Thank you. >> Thank you for the feedback. Okay, just leaving some space in case there are other questions or feedback. Anything else that comes up or bubbles to the surface for folks, but seeing none, we'll move on to I'm going to put this slide back up so that maybe folks who are watching online can see that there is a link to the online comment form if they weren't able to attend in person, but we thank them for paying attention to this process all the same. And if there are no further questions, I think anything for a closing statement, Commissioner Donnelly. >> No, I would I would say that. Do you are there any comments relating to possible 2027 amendments that you would like to see addressed? Julie, I would suspect you may have 5 or 6, but that would be this part of our agenda would allow time for you to make any comments on something that you would like to see us address in 2027, and if not, we can we can adjourn or we can. >> Oh, I have one comment. >> Okay. >> Just a general comment. >> This is just a general comment on process. So I was rewatching the July 8th Charter Review Commission meeting where you voted on the amendments. And prior to that, the meeting before or so, there was a long discussion about, you know, how many how how to do the public comment for the July 8th meeting. Was it going to be three minutes at the beginning, or was it going to be one minute? You were allowed one minute to make a public comment on whatever charter amendments you wanted to, to talk about, or was it going to be three minutes plus one minute for it went on and on and on. And the general feeling I got from the whole discussion, except for from Commissioner Chrisley, was that, oh, for God's sake, people had all this time to offer public comment. We're going to end up with this very long meeting that we don't want to have to devote that much time to. So let's figure out the quickest way we can get people in and out. And I felt that was and, and Commissioner Chrisley made the point of like, this is the job you're signed up to do. And you see this with the council too, like with the comp plan update, a lot of people showed up at the meeting where the the final meeting where the councilors were going to hear from the public on the comp plan and all the different, you know, whatever they're called, related to the comp plan. And there was a lot of people who showed up and the councilors then decided, well, this is just too much. We're going to be here too long. Let's cut it to two minutes, from 3 minutes to 2 minutes or I've been in battleground where they cut the meeting from 3 minutes to 1 minute. People crafted their comments. They took the time to craft a comment. They took the time to go down there or, you know, whatever to make their comment. And now it's pretty much like, oh, jeepers, we got to get out of here, folks. And I would just suggest that the that the commission you signed, commissioner, signed up for this. You be more not you to personally, but you know what I mean, that the commission be more what's the word? Amenable to whenever people show up to make a comment. Maybe people hadn't watched the whole process and made comments throughout. Maybe this was their one chance to make a comment. And now you're saying, okay, well, you either get the three minutes or you get the one minute and by God, get your butt up there, make your comment and get to your seat because we want this to move. And my feeling is if that meeting had gone till midnight, it goes till midnight. This is your job. So I would like to pass that on to some of the commissioners who were like, oh boy, we they could one or the other. We can't be sitting here all day listening to comments. They had time before this to make their comments. The other thing is, is I would have liked discussion at that meeting between the commissioners. It was pretty much whatever went to drafting was put on the ballot more or less. I think it was. I think it was. And my feeling is if it's just a pro forma thing, just batch them, send them along. The idea that you didn't have a discussion because people might have changed their mind. And that's the other thing regarding public comment. If you're going to want public comment, you got to give the public the feeling that you really care about the public comments. Not that you're just putting up with this, but your mind's already made up. And I feel that's really important because at every meeting you said, we want public comment, we appreciate public comment. And then you get to the last meeting when you're going to vote on these. And it's like, oh boy, we just want to get this public comment over with. That was the impression I got. So yeah, that's just for next time. Thanks. >> Thank you Julie. >> Well good morning. Can you hear me? >> Yes, yes. >> Okay. Terry Allen, just a quick comment here. Years ago the our commissioners made a very. A decision that had a tremendous impact on the population. There was quite a crowd that showed up, and it was almost unmanageable. But they decided that you you came here and showed up. Everybody gets three minutes period, lined up. They ran as smoothly as they could. My turn came about a 12:45 in the morning, my wife shortly thereafter. But it was important, very important at that time for all the people that were there to have their full say. So I would encourage I would very much encourage, you know, whatever else, whatever else is on your schedule. Let the people speak. Thank you. >> And is there a general feeling that three minutes is appropriate not to be reduced to 2 or 1? Okay. Thank you. >> Molodih Allen. And when I was a planning commissioner, we long time ago, for six years we stayed until 2 or 230 in the morning listening to everybody, because it was very important for us to hear what the community had to say. Even though we were volunteers, we were not paid, of course, but we did have a responsibility that we were appointed to. It was our responsibility to make sure that everybody was heard, especially when they made so much time and effort to get ready to tell us what exactly they thought about the subject or the process or the proposals. And to me, this is very irresponsible not to allow people to talk about it and not allow them to use their couple of minutes now, but this is getting worse, and I'm sorry to say that this needs to change. >> Thank you. >> Well, I'm not aware that we ever didn't allow somebody to make public comment, but I do hear your point. >> I think that's really valuable feedback as well. I do remember the conversation that you're talking about, and I was very much on the side of, we should just let people speak because again, that is the job. So we will take that feedback and pass it along to the rest of the commission. I hope that they are as receptive to it, and yeah, ideally that will we will continue to make sure that everyone gets their their time. But of course, I can't speak for the chair and the executive committee, so all we can do is pass along the feedback. >> I'm going to mention it to at district two tomorrow. >> I think that's helpful. And I'll just go around the room one more time and make sure I'm not missing out on any comments, feedback, questions. Leaving space for that. Okay, then I believe if no one else has any other comments or questions. Thank you so much for attending the district one Clark County Charter Review Commission Town Hall about our 2026 proposed amendments to the Clark County Charter, which are on the ballot. Since we are in the library, I can confidently state there are many voters pamphlets out there on the table. If you haven't received one at your house and you're curious to dive more into the pro and con statements that we read today, or look at some of the resolution text that's in there as well. Again, thank you so much for attending. Thank you to those who watched online or will watch in the future. Thank you for caring about the changes coming to your county and for caring about local government, because that's really, really important. Not more than ever. >> So yes, thank you for coming. You are among the most dedicated voters, and I want to say that I have been proud to be here with you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for